London Wooster Street

vansc

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After long admiring the high quality screenshots posted in this forum, i finally decided to post some of my current project.
As a great fan of british electric traction, i needed some sort of excuse to run as many of the great models available in Trainz as possible on one layout.

This obviously required some bending of facts, and this is what i came up with:

After the 1845 act allowing the Great Western Railway (GWR) and London & Northwestern Railway (L&NWR) joint operations on the West London Line (WLL), the GWR decided to build another london terminus around Sloane Square accessed via a short spur diverging from the WLL at Lots Rd Jct.: London Wooster Street Station (or LWS for short -- it is of course named after the great Wodehouse character).

With the connection of the WLL to the Brighton Main Line (BML) at Clapham Jct, the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway (LB&SCR) also began running services to LWS, to relieve its congested Victoria station.

From 1870, the GWR built a connection at LWS from the WLL to the Metropolitan District Railway, to run services on the Middle Circle: Paddington - Westbourne Park - Shepherds Bush - Addiscombe Rd (today Kensington Olympia) - LWS - Victoria - Mansion House.

With the electrification of its suburban lines, the L&NWR started running 3rd rail electric services via the North London Line (NLL) from the 1910s.

In the 1930s, as part of the new works programme, flyovers were built at Lots Rd Jct, to increase capacity and allow additional NLL and BML trains to terminate at LWS.

In the 1970s, British Rail decided to electrify LWS with ac overhead lines in connection with its concurrent GWML electrification scheme, so that it could act as a diversionary terminus for Paddington. Also, a connection was built to the WCML fast lines at Willesden Jct, so that LWS could act as a diversionary for Euston, too.

In the 1980s, new intercity connections were established via LWS:
From the North (Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham via the WCML) and the West (Cardiff, Bristol via the GWML) to Brighton, both via the WLL and LWS. At LWS, trains would reverse and change loco from ac to dc electric or vice versa.

So far, so hypothetical. I decided to translate this fictional scenario as it was in the 1970s into Trainz as a model railway, so that only certain sections will be built: LWS (obviously), and Lots Rd Jct with a station that is yet to find a name.

As I'm from Switzerland, I may not be completely up-to-date on UK railways & their history, so I'd be glad for constructive criticism (both in re the "history" of LWS and my Trainz modelling)!

One concrete question I'm pondering at the moment: how realistic are the many flyovers (considering LWS has only 6 tracks)?
 
And now, for some screenshots (as you can see, still very much a wip).

Approach to LWS:
Main Lines on the left, suburban / LU lines on the right
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The station throat, with the suburban / LU station on the left, with the track continuing to central london via the circle / district lines, LWS main line station in the middle, and a small goods / parcels station on the right.
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And now for Lots Rd Jct:
Here, the LU diverges from the suburban lines to its separate platforms (with the class 73 wrongly sitting on the down LU diverging line), and there is a connection from the suburban lines to the main lines (for services terminating at LWS).
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Looks good so far. There are various flyovers on Suburban lines around London, so what you have put in looks fine. One thing I would point out is that tracks on which Underground trains run should have a 4th central conductor rail as well as the 3rd outer one. There are various 4th rail tracks available on the DLS. The other thing to note for full realism is that the 3rd rail doesn't normally continue through junctions. There is normally a gap where the switch is with it then starting again a little further on. 4th rail junctions get even more complicated. Best thing to do is look for pictures online to study. If you're interested in the technicalities of electrification then you could try and represent the transition from tracks shared by 3rd rail and 4th rail systems to ones used by 4th rail only. There has to be a gap in the electrification at the transition point as there is a voltage change.
 
Thank you for your quick replies!

The reason i don't use 4th rail is that there is none available from the same creator (nexusdj i think) that did the tracks i'm using. I really like these as they also come in a very dark "tunnel" version, which isn't available for the 4th rail versions, afaik.

In re the gaps in the 3rd rail around junctions, i would do that, but it needs spline points, and they mess up the radii in the curves of the track:

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how do you deal with this problem?
 
NexusDJ definitely has 4th rail tracks available. Searching "NEX 4th" in CM should find them.

Around points the best approach is to use sections of straightened track between each curved section. If the straight bits are made as short as possible then you can normally achieve good looking curves. On the other hand if it all sounds too much like hard work, you could just leave the 3rd rail in. Its up to you how far to go with the level of effort vs the level of detail.
 
For London Transport items also look for items LU on the DLS by "snakelight64" kuid 563140.

Cheers, evilcrow
 
All available on DLS . Search lu and category track.

<kuid2:87487:100007:1> LUL Tunnel 2(Bridge)
<kuid:457677:1207> New LU Tunnel Junction with out Power
<kuid:457677:1206> New LU Tunnel Junction with out Centre Rail
<kuid:563140:1509> LU Track BH:Wood 4th RHS:No Ramp
<kuid:87487:100005> LUL Junction
<kuid:457677:1205> New LU Tunnel Junction
<kuid:457677:1208> New LU Tunnel Entrance
<kuid2:563140:1505:1> LU Track BH:Wood 4th Only
<kuid2:87487:100001:1> LUL Tunnel
<kuid:87487:100012> LUL Track For Tunnels
<kuid:87487:100099> LUL Track For Station
<kuid:119746:28182> LUL Junction03 no power
<kuid:119746:28170> LUL Junction02 with central power rail
<kuid:119746:28177> LUL Junction01 without central power rail
<kuid:302962:1042> LUL 2 t steel bridge
<kuid2:119746:28172:1> LU Tunnel New
<kuid:119746:28171> LU Track New
<kuid2:563140:1504:2> LU Track BH:Wood 4th RHS
<kuid:563140:1510> LU Track BH:Wood 4th Only:No Ramp
<kuid:563140:1508> LU Track BH:Wood 4th LHS:No Ramp
<kuid2:563140:1503:1> LU Track BH:Wood 4th LHS
<kuid:563140:1507> LU Track BH:Wood 3rd RHS:No Ramp
<kuid2:563140:1502:1> LU Track BH:Wood 3rd RHS
<kuid:563140:1506> LU Track BH:Wood 3rd LHS:No Ramp
<kuid2:563140:1501:1> LU Track BH:Wood 3rd LHS
<kuid2:563140:1500:1> LU Track BH:Wood
 
Thank you all very much for your help!

I've just found the solution to all my problems: The AEL TRK set by thisischeese. It includes the tracks (in no electrification, 3rd and 4th rail versions), and ramps as well as segments of 3rd or 4th rail to fill in as trackside objects. It's absolutely brilliant, if a little laborious to install. The tracks come even with little insulators!
See for yourselves, this is the 1st set of points I've used it on:
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This will keep me busy for the next few weeks, but the results are absolutely worth it, I think.

I will also reduce the number of flyovers / diveunders at Lots Rd Jct.
 
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