I'll have two penath of this one please,
.............I see TRS2004 a bit like smoking.
More and more people are trying to give it up, but they just can't kick the habit.
They know it's bad for them, but it's so darn good and comforting they can't resist going back to it.
And in a way TRS2004 is the same, it is bad for them, in that it is holding everything back, because it is essayer to build content in 04 than it is with 09 lets say,
But 04 has gone as far as it can go.
If you want to go bigger, better, stronger, faster, you have got to upgrade, even though at times it doesn’t seam that way.
But as this is a massive evolutionary community affair, you can't just start from scratch.
What I think the lads at Auran are trying to do is, slowly wean everybody off using the older stuff.
I know it will be cold turkey now, but the end result will be worth it.
I also know that there are a lot of issues with 09,……. But then,…….No pain, no gain!!!
That should ruffle a few feathers.
Jonathan
No ruffled feathers here.

I agree there comes a time when we have to move on to something new and leave the older stuff on the rusty siding. Having been in the computer industry for over 25 years, I've seen many changes, which I've spoken about in the forums.
If people stayed with green and orange (pumpkin) colored CRTs, and didn't even consider a GUI and high speed graphics, we wouldn't have anything close to what we have now, let alone at home. It really wasn't until pretty recently that we've actually had the capabilities to actually use a program such as this in our own home. 12 years ago, this hardware, or its equivalent in the day, was only available in university and corporate R&D centers mostly due to the cost.
The other thing too is do we really know what Auran is working on? They maybe working on a new product, a better Trainz version perhaps, than we have now. What happens in their R&D lab is not privy to us and shouldn't be because all they'd need is a lurker to steal the information and spread it out to the the competitors. In my not so recent past, I worked for a small company that manufactured some really interesting stuff. These projects eventually became products. The other thing too is the company was very small and the larger companies were quite surprised when they were released to the market.
I can understand the frustrations with the new product, but instead of fighting and expecting more, go with the flow. So far I have had good results with TS2009. My only real complaint is the draw distance is reduced in Driver mode and doesn't have the depth as seen in Surveyor. Now I'm using the program in compatiliblty mode at this time, and it works fine for me. In fact the screen shots I posted recently were done in TS2009 in compatilbity mode. The native mode is nice for performance, but in due time hopefully the assets will be straightened out.
There is little stutter and the performance is quite nice. I like the way the signals light up the way they do now. The AI act alot better than they did before. In fact I think the overall product is smarter acting and probably due to the underlying changes more than what's visible to us.
What else can I say? I like Trainz because it gives the pleasure of building and enjoying my own environment away from the hubub and roughness that we deal with every day. Trainz also gives me the model railroading pleasure that I used to have with a physcial model in a virtual mode. Sadly I can no longer assemble models nor successfully maintain a physical layout due to my neuro-muscular condition. The N-Scale layout that I love so much has sadly been packed away in plastic crates. This happened after I was dropping more things than I was handling. If only I could have the best of both worlds. The physical layout with the unlimited space and the ability to sit in the driver's seat at the same time.
John