I Finally Erased RailWorks
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norfolksouthern37
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Not bashing you, but a Pentium D...say no more. I do have a machine here in the house with a Pentium D. i would not attempt to run trainz on it, and if i did, i would not expect it to run well. i personally wouldnt look any further than this. doesnt matter if it is dual core it is one of the first. it is way outdated (05-06) and meeting or barely surpassing minimum specs with it does not mean the game should run fine.
having an SSD in the above configuration does little or nothing for you. of course the drive will always seek faster, but combine the D with the relatively small amount of RAM and winXP and you still have to do it very often.
TADD does interact with the planet auran account, this is for a variety of things like the game chat etc. it also does downloading from DLS but not during driver. i cannot imagine why this would stop or stutter the game, but i guess anything is possible. i guess what i was getting at is that you seem to have pointed the finger in the direction of TADD "YEP THAT'S IT" and stopped the search there. again, not bashing you or saying you have to upgrade, but you have other things to look at before placing blame on TADD. your opinion of trainz is based a lot on the hardware you choose to operate it on.
You can find Pentium D's on Ebay for around $8. Definitely not state of the art in today's digital environment. I was playing around before and started up Task Manager while running Trainz and TADD was basically using no processor power or memory to speak of while Trainz was running a route clicking along at about 65 fps.
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I'm sure the we all have to agree that Railworks is crap even though it seems to perform so much better than Trainz. Maybe someone uninstalling their super Trainz would be big news. BTW no longer run TRS2010, gone back to TC3.
Friend of mine has RW 2013, and a better PC that I do, and there is no way that his performs better than TS12 on my PC. He has stutters, and low FPS in built up areas. It is pretty hurky jerky....
Yeah, I understand all that. My point is you got a motorcycle with a cast lead frame and a top speed of 10mph, you can make it go faster if you put a bigger engine in it instead of replacing the frame with a lighter alloy. You're not addressing the actual problem, you're merely overpowering it.
But trying to run a current piece of software on a 6 year old system, is not going to work well, no matter how the software is written. The way PC's are designed today,, after a couple of years, they are on the back side of the power curve. I read posts on the forums discussing RW3 and 4, and folks there are buying PC's with I7 processors and liquid cooled GPU's and the most expensive Ram they can get, sometimes more than 8GBs, and SSD's, to try and get consistent frame rates in the low 20's. You put a program that demanding on a 6 year old PC, and it probably won't even run.
Almost forgot, Kris; "Don't mean to start anything but why was this posted. I don't see the need for the OP to tell us that he deleted Railworks."
You're in for a world of hurt over the next couple months, someone is gonna order you to guard the garbage cans behind the barracks, walking your post in a military manner keeping always alert and challenging anyone who approaches those garbage cans SIR! You're gonna question why should I guard GARBAGE CANS I don't see the need - and find out what happens to recruits who ask questions. :wave:
You're in for a world of hurt over the next couple months, someone is gonna order you to guard the garbage cans behind the barracks, walking your post in a military manner keeping always alert and challenging anyone who approaches those garbage cans SIR! You're gonna question why should I guard GARBAGE CANS I don't see the need - and find out what happens to recruits who ask questions. :wave:
norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
I'm sure the we all have to agree that Railworks is crap even though it seems to perform so much better than Trainz. Maybe someone uninstalling their super Trainz would be big news. BTW no longer run TRS2010, gone back to TC3.
yes it does perform much better. it is a lot easier to perform better than trainz when you are not doing 10% of what trainz is. :wave:
The story is behind the story. Anecdotal commentary without specific background does not carry much weight. Yes there may be people who have the willingness to pile on their credit card everything that was in a catalog but did they have the knowledge to take advantage of it. I can say that I always ran myI5-2550 with Railworks max'd except for anti-alais. I ran that on the second notch. 25 to 30 FPS in dense areas - trees, buildings, etc. BUT, lots of trains in a yard caused 10FPS. Since I am a country boy I am not impressed by a big yard. The silly game can't make anything happen in it anyhow except me driving around so I could pick up a car and drop it somewhere. Now that car was a zombie because no one could do a second coupling.
With Trainz setup some switching activity and then run in your local train and drop the last two cars and be on your way. Do this and not get whacked by an AI train. If I had a choice of Railworks and a NY taxi simulator I take the taxi.
With Trainz setup some switching activity and then run in your local train and drop the last two cars and be on your way. Do this and not get whacked by an AI train. If I had a choice of Railworks and a NY taxi simulator I take the taxi.
Didn't know they had a New York Taxi sim, that should be exciting......... :hehe:
While acknowledging Kris's comment that we a OT, i think the TADD discussion is worth while.
My latest rig was built specifically for TS12 as a Win7 Ult 64 machine, but damned if I could get TS12 to run well, so i backdated to TS10 XP. It is 100 miles over spec and TS10 runs absolutely smooth as silk EXCEPT when TADD kicks in when it comes to a literal standstill then lurches back to smooth as silk. couple of minutes later TADD > stall > lurch > smooth and so on it goes.
Something I'd never even linked to it though is that the region I live in has the Internet infrastructure from hell - best i can got is 256 ADSL. Maybe I should take the rig to my son's house and plug into his cable and see what happens.
Question is though if it IS a dud i'net conexn why doesn't TAD look for it ONCE, work out it can't find what it's looking for and turn off, why does it have to stick it's head up every two or three minutes????
Andy
EDIT: And I run TS10 because 12 is worse - seems like about every 90 seconds!
My latest rig was built specifically for TS12 as a Win7 Ult 64 machine, but damned if I could get TS12 to run well, so i backdated to TS10 XP. It is 100 miles over spec and TS10 runs absolutely smooth as silk EXCEPT when TADD kicks in when it comes to a literal standstill then lurches back to smooth as silk. couple of minutes later TADD > stall > lurch > smooth and so on it goes.
Something I'd never even linked to it though is that the region I live in has the Internet infrastructure from hell - best i can got is 256 ADSL. Maybe I should take the rig to my son's house and plug into his cable and see what happens.
Question is though if it IS a dud i'net conexn why doesn't TAD look for it ONCE, work out it can't find what it's looking for and turn off, why does it have to stick it's head up every two or three minutes????
Andy
EDIT: And I run TS10 because 12 is worse - seems like about every 90 seconds!
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But then what is the explanation for me to be able to run TS12 with my DSL modem disconnected, and I get no hesitations at all and great frame rates? If it is true that TADD is a resource hog when it tries to communicate with the internet, then I should see some effect when this happens.
I just tried and experiment. I fired up TS12, and Task Manager, shut off my DSL modem and started a session.
CPU usage for TADD 0.0 Memory for TADD 179 Megs
CPU Usage for TS12 31% memory for TS12 675 Megs
Ran it for 10 minutes, and nothing changed.
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Seriously how the hell are you going to compare this to the military. Now that's just plain flat outright stupid. Our taking out the trash and carry our laundry bags up Sand Hill. And marching with our 40 pound rucksack 12 miles. And besides the difference here is flame wars start almost all the time when the word Railworks is presented to us. Taking out the trash is discipline and their way of building us up the Army way. No way those two can be compared. Sorry if I sound harsh but I'm just being honest with you. I don't think the whole world needs to know what you do with Failworks. Besides, if it's related to assistance and insist on talking about it, the the Parts & Labor section would the best place for it.
norfolksouthern37
what's a normal map?
I think you are out of line man. it seems to me you arrived in this thread somehow and dont have a clue what is going on to this very post. there was no hint of flamewar until you came in.
It's okay, he'll find out. How I can compare it to the military is because I KNOW. I've been there, done that, spent my 9 weeks in boot camp and a year in schools and four years in the fleet long before you were born. But if some snot nosed recruit thinks he knows better than a veteran, he's in for a rougher ride than most.
You and Sniper should probably forward this information to pw3r/Terry. It could be useful. For my part, running ANYTHING offline, with no network connection, produces benefits. The program calls the OS which then calls the stack which then calls the driver; if the stack and driver are unavailable then you'll get an error. The program, that is. I run Trainz on a TOTALLY non-networked machine with no networking stack where none of this "bureaucracy" exists.
No it's just that every time Railworks is brought up, someone gets made. And if I had made this thread, someone would've scolded me. Besides I've already went through this whole thing. And it should belong in the Parts & labor section.
Well times have changed. My dad's been in for 29 years. They can't put their hands on you or cuss at you. It's been outlawed. Infantry is no longer at Fort Knox. It's been transferred to Fort Benning. I've watched all of the BCT videos. They don't even use Rifle Bayonet anymore. That's used in the Pugil Combat training. I've gotten everything I need. All I've gotta do is pass this APFT and I'll be E2 or E3. So I'm set. I won't have a problem with the Drill Sergeants. I just hate group disciplinary action.
I do not think TADD usus the Internet. I can run with the Internet disconnected. I am guessing that it is purely a separate program to handle requests to the DLS for data and then queue that to the main program or one of its threads depending on how the request was made.