Grass goes under water?

[autodctr]

Would love to post a pic of this, but I NEVER have any luck trying to post a pic on here, so let me try to describe what is happening.

I was just trying something to see what it would look like. I downloaded track that was 4 tracks wide. Started it on a very slight uphill grade. Added to it about 10 sections and then went to fill in the ground underneath it. Everything is good except where it first starts to go from level ground to the uphill slope. In that one section only (which shows a zero slope), it appears like there is water under and around the track! It remains green, but a darker shade. If you zoom in on it, you can actually see the waves like you would on water.

I tried deleting and replacing the track, I tried reducing the slope (it says it is at zero), but no good....still looks like the track is running through a marsh. I tried both PBR and non-PBR grasses....no good.

Any ideas?

 

[autodctr]

Went back into the game. Anywhere on the route where the ground level is at zero, if I try to lower the ground by as little as possible, it gets the water ripples. It also gets a bluish color to it. Lower ir just a bit more and it gets dark blue.

 

[coop2]

Go to your 'water layer' and lower the level of the water

 

[autodctr]

Go to your 'water layer' and lower the level of the water

Tried that....no good. Understand that this does not have the normal blue color of water.....it is just a darker green than the land under it. And this track is at zero elevation. Water has not been added anywhere on the route....I just started the route.....I have a station and some track laid.

 

[pware]

Water has not been added anywhere on the route....I just started the route

When you create a new route in Trainz Plus and TRS22 a water effect layer is automatically added. It sits at or just below the surface at 0m elevation.

I was able to reproduce your situation in TRS22PE and got exactly the same result. My explanation is that at the very start of the slope where the ground actually goes from a grade of 0% to (say) 1% there is a small area where the ground dips below the 0m level. It is here that the water effect layer (automatically installed as stated above) makes a brief appearance.

The simple solution is to delete the water effect layer. You can easily add one if/when you need it and at a more suitable height. Changing the height of entire pre-existing layer is not as simple as it may seem (at least in my experience).

• In TRS22PE right mouse click on the layer named "Water" in the Layers Palette and select the option Delete.
• In TRS22 Open the Topology Tool flyout, then
  1. Open the Advanced Tab
  2. Click the Add/Edit Effect Layers button
  3. Select the Water Layer (it may already be selected)
  4. Click the Delete Icon (the small white cross on a red button)

 

[autodctr]

That worked pware.......THANKS! So, that brings up another question......this is at least the 4th route that I have built in 22PE......why didn't I have this problem before?

 

[coop2]

pware you are at it again. Giving good advice. I had the same problem with the water layer and when I lowered the water layer it fix the problem. I'm also trying learn how to use the new serveyer.

 

[pware]

why didn't I have this problem before?

Luck? A slight difference in the initial conditions? The phase of the moon?

I'm also trying learn how to use the new serveyer.

It is a steep learning curve but well worth the climb. It took me many months to make the complete transition from Classic to Surveyor 2.0 but now I very rarely (if ever) go back into Classic. Surveyor 2.0 is so much more powerful, versatile and efficient (in both time and effort) than Classic.

If you are not aware of them already there are manuals/tutorials on Surveyor 2.0 available on the Trainz Wiki at:-

How_to_Use_S20_Tools

How_to_Use_S20_Palettes