Grain Industry

[klambert]

I'm looking for some Grain Industry items, namely I would like an industry interactive grain silo, which I can load railway hoppers, and then somewhere to drop the grain off, which is also industry interactive. I would prefer these items to be of an American outline.

Unfortunately I cant set up a custom industry because the settings always switch themselves to default when I exit and re-load the route.

 

[NICKEL]

That is because industry numbers can only be set in a session file that will be kept. Route files reload the industry from the original file each time.

Make a session file for the route and drive from there.

 

[pware]

Always load and edit the session not the route in Trainz 2006 and later as industry settings, such as cargo types, quantities, loading/unloading rates, etc are always saved in the session. If you reload the route for editing then these settings will always be returned to their default "factory setting" values.

You can use the same industry asset to both load and unload the grain.

 

[ct_krogen]

aaaa train 06 does not use sessions.......

 

[pware]

aaaa train 06 does not use sessions.......

Yes it does - there are no layers as in 09 to 12 and nothing like the layer tool but sessions are still saved as separate files to the route. In 06 all scenery assets are saved as part of the route but industry settings, drivers and driver commands, consists, track priority levels, rule settings, time of day, etc are part of a session. You can have a route with multiple different sessions - each with the same scenery assets but with different consists, driver commands, settings (such as the same industries but producing different goods), etc.

Peter Ware

 

[schweitzerdude]

Since you have TS2010:

1. Follow the advice previously given by others by not editing the route directly, but editing session in surveyor,even if you have only one session. Doing so will prevent the resetting of industry parameters.

2. You will have much more success in accomplishing what you want if you use "industry basic new", which can handle a very large number of commodities, and then look for buildings that are not "interactive industries", just buildings, but are prototypical of the location, industry, and era you are trying to simulate, and place these buildings alongside the "industry basic new". You will of course have to find freight cars that handle the commodities, but if you already have them locally, just click "view dependencies" in CM to see what commodities they can handle.

 

[ct_krogen]

Yes it does - there are no layers as in 09 to 12 and nothing like the layer tool but sessions are still saved as separate files to the route. In 06 all scenery assets are saved as part of the route but industry settings, drivers and driver commands, consists, track priority levels, rule settings, time of day, etc are part of a session. You can have a route with multiple different sessions - each with the same scenery assets but with different consists, driver commands, settings (such as the same industries but producing different goods), etc.

duh yes, there is i was thing of layers,, at teh time,,, some one just put me on a siding andlet me sit there for a while

 

[ct_krogen]

but if he loses a session and you make new tracks in the session and they lose the session you will lose part of the track,,,,,,,, i done this my self,,,,
allways make route the area you lay track and other things in the session you set up your indies

 

[danny5]

For grain silos look under object(house)type insilokomplex you should find what you want there.
Now in TS12 you can configer all your INDs in the route and they will stay figered. I've done this to over 100 INds while building my route & testing after adding new towns They all kept there set up.
The only thing you have to do in a session is add your commands and rules.
I do everything in route when exiting i save, when the box open i click the circle at the top to save new route and session, then check ok to overwrite xxxx route.
This way i have one route & one session.
Now in CMP you will find a few of the routes & sessions i delete all but the last three (3) of them as another back up.A long with my CDPs i make of each route & session when i get done working on it for the night.(day)
Hope this help.

 

[pware]

I do everything in route when exiting i save, when the box open i click the circle at the top to save new route and session, then check ok to overwrite xxxx route.
This way i have one route & one session.
Now in CMP you will find a few of the routes & sessions i delete all but the last three (3) of them as another back up.A long with my CDPs i make of each route & session when i get done working on it for the night.(day)
Hope this help.

... and the reason why you have to delete all those extra sessions is because each time you enter 2009, 2010 or TS12 surveyor by selecting "Edit the route" it creates a brand new session. And when you select "save as a NEW route" it creates a new route as well - I have tried it that way before and seen the chaos that results. I prefer to keep things much simpler, less confusing and easier to manage. So I always enter surveyor by selecting "Edit the session". But from the many discussions on this topic scattered throughout these forums Trainzers will do what they feel is best for them.

I make my backups by saving the route and session as a combined .cdp file stored on another drive.