HI SAWYER811 many of then is already are made freeware models, the ones i really made from scrach like this payware model are made in 4 to 5 days working depends, also 3dmax is my working job tool as i work whit architecture 3d visualization and max is my tool since version 2.0 yet in dos lines mode, more then 10 years ago and i really dont know everything of max i can assure you that, max is not a frozen program they have thousands of plugins and new features always evolving in a question of months sometimes less them that.
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