Getting to know signals

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

At the moment, all signals on my layout are TRS2004 default USA stock, mainly because I understand a few of them and know which ones to place where.

However, I'd like to change them to better-looking types (Spanish signals in this case) which function in the same way as the US signals.

How can I tell which signals are equivalent (other than trial-and-error on the layout itself)? Is there some part of the config which holds this information, or is it hidden in script files? Any clues appreciated.

~ D

 

[StorkNest]

In the \TRS2004\Docs\manuals_cd\manuals\ folder there should be a Signaling_Guide.PDF file explaining USA, British and Queensland signals, then you just need to know what Spanish Signals do what and compare functions with the equivalent default ones you are using.

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Hmmm...did all that. My brain hurts. Not even one is a simple equivalent to default USA signals in terms of it's config set up. Guess I'll keep looking.

 

[Dermmy]

You will also find that any signal with any kind of route indicator which was originally made for TRS04 (or earlier) is more than likely broken in TRS06 (or later)...

Andy

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Just another reason not to 'upgrade' to TRS2006!

The only reason I was interested in Spanish signals is that my route is supposed to be in Chile and they speak Spanish, but I guess that's no guarantee the signalling system will be anything like Spain's. Does anyone know what the Chilean signal system is like (ie. is it similar to any of the systems modelled in Trainz?).

 

[Euphod]

I'm sure you've seen this:

http://www.geocities.com/mcivory2000/ChilieRailwaySignals.GIF

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

No, as a matter of fact, I hadn't. Thank you muchly.

They don't look too different from USA defaults actually, so maybe I'll just save myself the bother and stay with them, unless some bright spark creates Chilean signals and puts them on the DLS.

The caption "Clear Left (normal running)" on one of the signals has me thinking that I have my trains running on the wrong side of passing loops. I just assumed they would be to the right in Chile...

Interesting spelling - Chilie. Neither Chile nor chillie.

 

[backyard]

I think your more worried about the type of mast, than the correct signal...

Believe me, Aussie, or US-American sigs do the job.

You can purvey the offered signals, and pick and chose, as you wish.

Are your junctions placed at the correct spot on the spline that leads to the turnout? That's the first step...aside of naming the junctions in a matter you can recognise instantly.

Some sigs, will let the AI Driver pass, Absolute signals won't.

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Well, the look is important in its own right. Nice if they look good, better if they are also typical of the region and best if they function properly!

The type of signals at the junctions are correct (in terms of their function with AI trains). I use USA_02 or USA_L02 depending on what end of the passing loops the trains are entering. These are absolutes. On stretches of track between the passing loops, I only place permissives - mostly USA_05, but just before the track comes to a junction, I use a USA_03 (or USA_L03) to match the corresponding USA_02 (or USA_L02) at the junction.

I currently have all signals placed on the right-hand side of the track as you face them, and use direction marks to make the trains always take the right-hand fork in a passing loop. So, now I'm wondering if I have the signals on the correct side and if I have chosen the preferred direction correctly for Chile.

Looking all through this website; http://members.fortunecity.es/movilizacionchile/ I still can't tell - they seem to place signals on either side and no mention of any preferred track in passing loops.

 

[backyard]

Aussie, all I can say is passing loops, sound like passing sidings to me.

And then, whatever side of the track, in the direction of the train movement counts in the US-Americas.

Someone, please help this Man!

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Auran TRS2004 Signalling Guide, page 4:

"......a diverging path such as a passing loop............."

I think I'll start saying 'railway' instead of 'railroad' too.

And, actually, you have helped. If signals can go on either side of the track in the US-Americas (which I assume includes Chile) then I don't have to change anything. Suits me fine.

 

[Athox]

i have a different question, but still sort of signal related

are there any signals for warning for a level crossing (that has some sort of stopping device (boom, etc) for cars) in trainz/dls?

in norway we have a purple/white pre-signal that indicates whether the signal before the crossing is red/white meaning stop or clear line respectively. these lights wouldn't (and shouldn't) be affected by trains at all, only the position of the stopping device on the level crossing.

would it even be possible to program/script anything like that, and does it exist? doesn't have to be that exact setup, just something similar.

of course there would probably have to be a related crossing that interacts with the signals.

 

[Dinorius_Redundicus]

Athox

The only signals I found on the DLS that fit your description (if I understand the Spanish correctly) are a pair by creator AVE of IberTrainz. I haven't used them myself so I'm not absolutely sure.

~ Deane

Señal indicadora de estado de paso a nivel Izquierda
(Signal indicator of the state of a level crossing - Left)
KUID: 148444:10088

Señal indicadora de estado de paso a nivel Derecha
(Signal indicator of the state of a level crossing - Right)
KUID: 148444:10089

 

[Athox]

Thanks! Maybe I'll dissect them and see what they're doing.

Edit: Crap, encrypted.