Fragmented Hard Drive
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A:
Absolutely.
A fragmented drive causes the drive to seek and read more often than an un-fragmented one. That would cause your jerking and lag.
Of course if it temporarily lost where a file was, that could cause your crashes.
ADDITIONAL:
Set up the drive to de fragment right before you go to bed..... it could take awhile.
I set up my system to defragment once a week whilst I sleep..... that way I do not have to wait on it to finish.
Absolutely.
A fragmented drive causes the drive to seek and read more often than an un-fragmented one. That would cause your jerking and lag.
Of course if it temporarily lost where a file was, that could cause your crashes.
ADDITIONAL:
Set up the drive to de fragment right before you go to bed..... it could take awhile.
I set up my system to defragment once a week whilst I sleep..... that way I do not have to wait on it to finish.
It took about 4-1/2 hours to Defrag. And when I got to a certain spot on my route in Driver it crashed to the desktop again. I think it may be a certain A.I. consist using my Wellcar I did that's causing it to crash. I deleted that consist and will try again later.
It makes me soooo nervous when TS12 crashes like that. I've only experienced it twice before on another route (not mine).
It makes me soooo nervous when TS12 crashes like that. I've only experienced it twice before on another route (not mine).
I'm just about ready to call it quits with Trainz.The same route. My Cotton Belt Route. I have been revising it quite a bit. I added Frogs and Checkrails at all the spurs (probably 3-400 or more). Then I deleted all the lo-res type rolling stock and added Jointed Rail, RRMods, and other higher res rolling stock. I tried deleting the frogs and checkrails, but it still crashed, so I don't think it's that. Could it be the higher res rolling stock?
I have been doing your route for about a month and have only one crash, and I could not duplicate it again, this happened when I was copying and pasting textures around MP 102-104 areas. Since then I have driven the route several time without any crashes. Don't know about the rolling stock as all of it is RR, JR's or yours. Outstanding route by the way!
John
Dave,
Be careful that this may not be a Trainz problem. I had an issues like this a couple of times. One turned out to be bad RAM and another turned out to be a failing hard drive. I always had a crash in the same place every time I ran the route. I also happened to drive the same direction each time so I'd end up in the same place. As I'd approach a particular area, the hard drive would start grumbling as though the program was loading data then the simulator would crash to the desktop. Eventually, I had memory errors with other programs, and when I ram MEMTst86, a slew of errors showed up.
More recently I had a bad hard drive do this. I'd be driving any route for a long time then SLAM! I'm at the desktop. This one took some time to find because the only time this happened was in Trainz. Eventually though, I had a real crash - a BSOD while on the internet. I ran a chkdsk which took forever to run and the computer rebooted at 80% of the run. That's when I knew it was a bad drive, but it took some time to find it.
John
Be careful that this may not be a Trainz problem. I had an issues like this a couple of times. One turned out to be bad RAM and another turned out to be a failing hard drive. I always had a crash in the same place every time I ran the route. I also happened to drive the same direction each time so I'd end up in the same place. As I'd approach a particular area, the hard drive would start grumbling as though the program was loading data then the simulator would crash to the desktop. Eventually, I had memory errors with other programs, and when I ram MEMTst86, a slew of errors showed up.
More recently I had a bad hard drive do this. I'd be driving any route for a long time then SLAM! I'm at the desktop. This one took some time to find because the only time this happened was in Trainz. Eventually though, I had a real crash - a BSOD while on the internet. I ran a chkdsk which took forever to run and the computer rebooted at 80% of the run. That's when I knew it was a bad drive, but it took some time to find it.
John
A corrupted asset will also crash your route also. I had the same problem as you, in drive mode at a particular signal, the session would crash. After 2 or three sessions I figured the cause, the signal asset got corrupted, for some reason it was not the kuid # it was suppose to be.
John
JackDownUnder
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As far as I am aware you should not defrag solid state drives.
Also why not run Ccleaner on you system to get rid of Crap and to clean up the registry.
I use it on a regular basis.
Until you get used to it run it as installed, you can tick additional boxes later.i
It is a free program which I have used for a lot of years.
Also why not run Ccleaner on you system to get rid of Crap and to clean up the registry.
I use it on a regular basis.
Until you get used to it run it as installed, you can tick additional boxes later.i
It is a free program which I have used for a lot of years.
That's exactly what it was, Ted. I deleted all the "hirez" rolling stock and no more crashes. After deleting those types of rolling stock, I ran my route for over 2 hours today, just TRYING to make it crash. But it never did. I guess I'm back in business with Trainz.
Thanks everyone for your tips and advice. I appreciate these forums.
Cheers,
Dave
You are correct about SSD drives. Never defrag them because they're not hard drives, but solidstate memory cells instead. The very act of defragmenting the solidstate device will degrade the life substantially.
http://www.micro-isv.asia/2010/12/never-defragment-an-ssd/
Use the tools that come with the SSD drive for any kind of maintenance.
John
I was going to say, "Dave Snow's route is awesome, SP1 compatible." Thanks to you, I have had great success testing other items that are suppose to be broke by SP1. Thanks for your route. I was wondering why it never gave me any trouble, but gave you problems. Thanks for the heads up. And, by the way, the rolling stock that is high resolution (I'd say when you download the CDP files they are over 20MB or more) is going to make it kind of lag or stutter, unless you install SP1. I now get over 65 FPS with this. Good day.