EIT and block working

[PortLineParker]

Apologies if this has been asked before or covered in other threads, but I can't find anything online and I feel I'm going around in circles!

I have a track layout as below, where a double line converges to single. I've added the (semaphore) signals in that protect the junction and there is also a small trailing siding.

Distant=======Outer Home=======\(siding)======Home======---------------------

My query is this; when approaching the junction on the double track and the junction is set against me, the distant signal will be 'on' and both the outer home and inner home will also be on. The outer home doesn't clear until I am around 30m away and then it clears, saying 'line ahead is clear for one block'. Needless to say, this is rather irritating as you practically slow to a halt and then have to get the train moving again only to stop at the inner home. My understanding is that, in real life, the distant would be 'on' and, assuming the siding junction is set for my path, the outer home will be 'off' and the inner home will be 'on'.

Is there a way to replicate this in Trainz? I've tried adding interlocking but I can't seem to get my head around it. The only workaround I've found so far is to place an invisible signal just before the inner home but then this in turn triggers the distant to return to 'off' when in fact it should be 'on'. Hopefully this makes some sense - you can probably see why I'm going giddy with signals and interlocking!

Cheers,

PLP

 

[H222]

Are you anticipating a "Yellow-Green-Red" stopping pattern?

I don't think you'll be able to replicate something like that without an interlocking tower. The signal being pulled off as you pull up to it is somewhat realistic for 2pos operations - it's often how signallers can bring you up without a proper G-Y-R stopping pattern.

Of course, you may find as well that if there are no catch points for a junction like that then in real life the outer home is where many trains would be held as well. Overlaps work differently around the world.

Jamie

 

[marky7890]

I was thinking the same, you would probably need an interlocking tower. You can set the state of each signal along a path.

 

[PortLineParker]

Hi both,

Yes, in my mind a yellow-green-red pattern was what I was expecting, as to me that would make sense - the distant is on, so I know I may need to stop, but as the outer home is off I know that it will likely be the inner I am held at. That being said, if the current process is prototypical and the train is nearly bought to a stop then I'm happy to keep it as such. I did look at EIT and I saw I could change the various states (though I think I need to consult the manuals again) but would you say then that it is worth leaving it as is? It sounds like it behaves prototypically for the UK.

Cheers,

PLP

 

[stagecoach]

EIT. If you use it as is, you could move onto the single track when a train may be on it approaching you. EIT can protect the single track and stop trains moving out of sidings onto it. It would be able to stop trains entering the single track to the siding if it was occupied.