DSP & P 2-8-0 #191 - LARGE Pics

Sampug394

I'm back. >:]
Today, I spent several Hours at the Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden, Colorado, and Made Sure to Document this engine well in Photographs.

2-8-0 #191 is a 1880 Baldwin Built, 3ft Gauge Steam Locomotive that ran in the Colorado Rockies on the Denver, South Park & Pacific Railroad. It was Previously Numbered 51, but was Renumbered after the DSP & P was Re-Organized (With Union Pacific's Involvement,) into the Denver, Leadville and Gunnison Railway.

After many years of Use, it was Promptly Sold to a Wisconsin Lumber Company in 1902, leaving behind it's Home Railroad which Slowly became Defunct in Colorado & Southern's Hands.

Several Decades Later, #191 came back to Colorado to the the CRRM, still bearing her Enormous Congdon Smokestack, a Trademark of the DSP & P, which also Built their Own Headlamps.

Now, #191, the Oldest Steam Locomotive on Colorado, is proudly on Display next to the Main Station/Gift Shop, Lettered D & LG, but still a South Park Locomotive at Heart...

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#191 is the Last 'Official' Denver, South Park & Pacific Steam Locomotive in the World. I obsess over this engine because it is one of the Few Remnants of one of the Best Railroads in Colorado, which once had Trackage through my old Hometown of Bailey, Colorado...

I call her the Old Lady of the Rockies... ;)
 
Hi Sampug394: Thanks for sharing the Pics with us, they are really nice..What a Good looking Locomotive..Thanks again for sharing..



Bob Cass:) :)
 
*cough* *cough* If only one of the great builders we have among us could built one for trainz, that would be REALY cool.:wave: :cool:
 
MY Personal Catch would be that it has to have a Russian Iron Blue boiler, Numbered 51 and Lettered D,. S. P. & P. ;)


You can tell in your pictures how worn the driver tires are. The pilot truck was like that until we ordered a new axle with wheels. Now the pilot truck has the only good set of journals

And be happy its painted at all, it was rusting to too many years. Under all that paint, the tender is actually from C-16 225, we found that when we sanded the tender for bondo and painting. The story goes that Bob Richardson found it in the mountains as a water tank. The original tender stayed in Wisconsin, there was nothing left to move back to Colorado.
 
Hi Klinger: I'm sorry to Bust in here, but do you think that the #5629 will ever run again?? I think that Engine is the best looking Steam Engine..I Grew up in Southwest Iowa and we used to go too Red Oak and watch the old CB&Q roll right through there..It was great..



Bob Cass:) :)
 
5629 running again?

Hi Klinger: I'm sorry to Bust in here, but do you think that the #5629 will ever run again?? I think that Engine is the best looking Steam Engine..I Grew up in Southwest Iowa and we used to go too Red Oak and watch the old CB&Q roll right through there..It was great..



Bob Cass:) :)

it is a expensive move to make but I would personally would like to see the 4-8-4 operate again but there are parts like the tubes and flues that needs to be replaced and it must comply to FRA railroad standards and other things and I do believe the locomotive is the best looking one but due to all of that time sitting exposed to the elements,she could use a good repainting!:cool:
 
Hi Klinger: I'm sorry to Bust in here, but do you think that the #5629 will ever run again?? I think that Engine is the best looking Steam Engine..I Grew up in Southwest Iowa and we used to go too Red Oak and watch the old CB&Q roll right through there..It was great..



Bob Cass:) :)


Burlington's practice at the time was that as part of the donation agreement is that the locomotive would never be used again.

However this is not really valid anymore, BNSF would agree I am sure. But the locomotive was used as a stationary boiler before it was donated, and the let it freeze over the winter, so its in bad shape. Plus its been sitting for 40 years

And we have nowhere to run it, so chances are not good. But neither were the chances of RGS 20 running again either, and look how that went with a massive donation of cash. Some one donates a Million or two, I'll bet we could fix her up

The D&RGW GP-30 3011 is the next major locomotive restoration project. It will be more then cosmetic, but with a few goodies inside I am told
 
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Hi Klinger: Thanks for your answer..But it sure would make a nice Excursion engine..Thanks..



Bob Cass:) :)

well,if that were to happen,it could take alot of time and money for such a project but as with the previous post space is a issue and the chances for the 5629 operating again are not too good and I'm sure the Burlington or AKA, CB&Q would not be happy about that,but I will say she could use a cosemetic repaint but as for operation: out of a question!:cool:
 
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well,if that were to happen,it could take alot of time and money for such a project but as with the previous post space is a issue and the chances for the 5629 operating again are not too good and I'm sure the Burlington or AKA, CB&Q would not be happy about that,but I will say she could use a cosemetic repaint but as for operation: out of a question!:cool:

She got a fresh coat of paint this last summer.
 
Outdoors...

I hate to see stuff sitting out in the weather. But what is one to do? A lot of the equipment at the Indiana Transportation Museum in Noblesville sits outside, too. (Thankfully, the Flagler Car doesn't!) I'm sure they would love to keep their equipment inside, and they'd love to keep it up better, but a majority of the fares they collect goes to pay ... the insurance premiums. Given what they earn from the Indiana State Fair Train each year, they just about break even. I've seen two museums -- one in Corydon, Indiana and one in northeast Ohio -- close down over the past few years because they couldn't afford the premiums.

:'(

-- Russ
 
We are actually getting much better at keeping our outdoor equipment in top shape. Repairing roofs to stop leaks, painting cars so the wood does not rot, if you follow those steps, you will not have to worry about the cars going into bad shape
 
We are actually getting much better at keeping our outdoor equipment in top shape. Repairing roofs to stop leaks, painting cars so the wood does not rot, if you follow those steps, you will not have to worry about the cars going into bad shape

This is Very True.

However, I'm kinda curious about those Two big old Coaches behind the SG D&RGW 2-8-0. They look pretty Warped. :(
 
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