Do away with "Friend Requests" on this forum

I remember having this discussion on another forum years ago; it's interesting that the discussion was quite similar...

If forum support for "friends" will cut down a lot of chatter that is more personal than on topic, then I am all for leaving things as they are!
 
With all do respect to the original poster . Why is this even a discussion , you don't want friends . So be it . But to ask the community to go by your wants, likes , and dislikes ???

I find this aspect of the forum vary useful to see what those that have similar interest are posting MY friends, or acquaintance . . I respect those who don't want to add anyone to a friends list for whatever reason , but to ask if it should be abolished , something that has been a part of this and many other forums for years ? Is to me not understanding it's purpose , and potential for collaboration . Really .... this needs to be even asked . When all that's required is to simply ignore the request ..

Respectfully Matt
 
The friends request should have the ability to "opt out". For some like Matt, it may have a benefit. I personally would never use it.

Just my thought. $0.02 worth.

Regards,
 
It took a while for the penny to drop but I suspect that much of the argument here is due to a misunderstanding over what the term "friend" actually means in this forum.

If you click on a username at the top of any post (right next to the loco or similar icon that is their selected avatar) and select view profile from the menu box, you will be taken to that users public profile.

On the left of the screen and just below their user photo (if they have supplied one) will be a link + Add as Friend. Clicking this link will send them a personal message from you requesting that they become your "forum friend". Further down the page is a list, with avatars, of all the "friends" that they have already accepted (if any) or who have accepted them as friends - I don't have any forum "friends" (probably too grumpy) and have never requested others to become my forum "friend" (who would want me?) so I don't know which it is.

It is that aspect of the forums that we mean by "friends", not whether or not you are willing to assist anyone with problems.

Just in case this was the actual issue behind the discussion here - if not then please ignore this post :D
 
Reckon that's a serious stretch Vern...
Not really. The current evidence is that the more obscure friending sites are becoming more attractive as the well known sites tighten their rules and impose stricter vetting. Also, the well-known sites are more likely to be subject to parental supervision or automatic exclusion. Whether it's really a concern or not is another issue, but it's not wise to assume that only the actual social media sites need careful management.
 
Hi everybody.
I believe that the problem in this thread would be in what in any individual's view is seen as a “friend”. In the foregoing, my humble opinion is that in life there are what I would call true personal friends and those I know as acquaintances.

In the first of the above and by example, my wife and myself have been lifelong football supporters (Manchester United + England). in that we have always had a group of almost lifelong “friends" + their wife's who have the same interest as ourselves with which we have always attended matches, had nights out together and even booked football holiday tours with and had great times on those holidays. Those persons we personally know and would call true friends.

Along with the above, there are persons that I and anyone can meet online via forums such as this or on social media sites that you may “get to know”. However, being the knowledge you gain of those persons is via the internet everything they state or even tell you via Skype has to be taken at “ face value”. Therefore, in the vast majority of those associations you will never get to meet them and truly get to know their wider interests and more importantly their real personality.

In the foregoing and as stated, the first group I would call real friends, the second group I would call “ acquaintances".

Bill
 
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The friends request should have the ability to "opt out". Post 23
It dose , in fact anyone can change , report , ignore and block your friend list After a person has been added ( edit ). BUT the easiest way is to just ignore the request . Post you don't do friends , and presto. problem solved .

As this discussion has proved , were not all friends here . some wish to left alone and share or not on there own terms . That's fine by me . no offense taken . What we defined as a friend is really up to that individual . Most of us will never meet our friends or acquaintances from the forum , or any other . So the question or proposal is to do away with a aspect of the forums that many find useful , and have used to keep track of posting and collaboration . Whatever there reason , there in control . My vote is to keep my control , and keep the friend list .


Respectfully Matt
 
Not really. The current evidence is that the more obscure friending sites are becoming more attractive as the well known sites tighten their rules and impose stricter vetting. Also, the well-known sites are more likely to be subject to parental supervision or automatic exclusion. Whether it's really a concern or not is another issue, but it's not wise to assume that only the actual social media sites need careful management.

On that front I would have thought PMs were a bigger problem. Friends are declared to the world, and therefore invite a level of scrutiny, PMs are hidden away from the general view.
 
On that front I would have thought PMs were a bigger problem. Friends are declared to the world, and therefore invite a level of scrutiny, PMs are hidden away from the general view.
True...I'd say that this is much ado...

Honestly, since there is no ages posted, I would find it hard to know the ten-year-old from the eighty-year-old, as long as the youngster posted relatively benign posts, ones that would not betray his or her immaturity.

And then again, I have read some really immature posts from old farts that made me wrongfully assume that they were only ten-year-olds! :hehe:
 
A perennial forum topic that probably doesn't have a true solution. Some like the feature, other don't. Typical for just about every feature we have. Seems like the best thing is to either use it or ignore it.

Now back to Trainz :D
 
Ok I am just Trainz user that needs bit support. nothing more, but there is not many users about from UK at this time, I am special needs, Every time I come to this forum Since I started I get told off most of the time.

I am very sorry that an almost near neighbour should feel like this. Be assured, that if you ask a question with which I can help, I shall be most happy to do so. I have been helped many times since I entered the world of Trainz on my 75th birthday, and have gradually built up my knowledge base, although I am by no means qualified to answer anything but relatively simple questions and as I have not "progressed" beyond TS12 (and in any case prefer TS10) I am by no means up to date. And, although I myself prefer to be accurate in my use of language, I would never criticise anyone for errors of grammar, spelling etc. as I well understand from my working days all sorts of problems such as dyslexia.

If you get told off, ignore it and keep asking!

All good wishes.

Ray
 
I am very sorry that an almost near neighbour should feel like this. Be assured, that if you ask a question with which I can help, I shall be most happy to do so. I have been helped many times since I entered the world of Trainz on my 75th birthday, and have gradually built up my knowledge base, although I am by no means qualified to answer anything but relatively simple questions and as I have not "progressed" beyond TS12 (and in any case prefer TS10) I am by no means up to date. And, although I myself prefer to be accurate in my use of language, I would never criticise anyone for errors of grammar, spelling etc. as I well understand from my working days all sorts of problems such as dyslexia.

If you get told off, ignore it and keep asking!

All good wishes.

Ray
Hooya! I agree!
 
Since folks on this subject like a dog to a bone ... I guess tp pass the time until TANE SP2 is unleashed ... I'm curious how this works:

What's the big deal to add someone to your friend-list? I mean, what does that mean?

People send me request, and I add them ... there's no harm, no foil.... :wave: The world will not come to an end.... the dead is not going to rise.... the sky is still blue.

I guess we need a subject as redundant as this one to pass the time until, like I said, TANE SP2, which I am curious also about!:hehe:

Kind regards
Ish
 
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I guess we need a subject as redundant as this one to pass the time until, like I said, TANE SP2, which I am curious also about!:hehe:

Yes, I have noticed that the forums have been very quiet lately. The "usual suspects" with their firebrand rhetoric and "we are all doomed" posts are missing - I thought it might have been a long Christmas/New Year hangover but they may well be keeping their powder dry until SP2 is released when we can expect another round of "N3V bashing".
 
At this point I see the friends system as a similar thing to a YouTube Subscriptions box, for those more familiar with that. You'll see the latest posts people on your friends list have made, which may be helpful to some folks. But of course, as others have said, don't like it - ignore it. There's a deny button for a reason. I don't have a big use for the whole friends list system, but if somebody wants to add me to theirs friends list... sure, why not? Unless I have a particular distaste to a person, I have no qualms with them being on my friends list.

Similarly as others have asked, there likely is not a way to remove the friends system from vBulletin and they don't seem keen to add the ability to remove it (or at least was the case in 2012) but as that post mentions, there may be ways around it for those who really don't want to deal with it. If so, only N3V can implement any solutions - and of course that's provided there are 'solutions' for this!

Yes, I have noticed that the forums have been very quiet lately. The "usual suspects" with their firebrand rhetoric and "we are all doomed" posts are missing - I thought it might have been a long Christmas/New Year hangover but they may well be keeping their powder dry until SP2 is released when we can expect another round of "N3V bashing".

I think its more likely most folks have moved on to either different forums or left the game and/or community completely. Fair enough whatever they decide to do though, their choices after all.

Cheers,
SM
 
At this point I see the friends system as a similar thing to a YouTube Subscriptions box, for those more familiar with that. You'll see the latest posts people on your friends list have made, which may be helpful to some folks.

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Cheers,
SM

So, that's what it does when a friend is added to a list?

Kind Regards
Ish
 
I have received numerous friend requests and send out very few. Do I care? Not really it doesn't seem to affect my presence here one way or another.
 
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