Curious About M-UlteraGrass and M-Ultratreez Speed Treed

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crisger

RR Mod Maker
Hello all
I ended up downloading and attempting to install a DRGW route that called for a bunch of trees and veg that TANE thinks are Faulty.

does anyone have information on these and how to fix them so they work? i could try moving the install to 2012 or 2010 as i have those versions of Trainz also..

here are the list of faulty veg items:

<kuid2:72938:40016:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(A,S)
<kuid2:72938:40017:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(A,W)
<kuid2:72938:40020:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(C,S)
<kuid2:72938:40021:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(C,W)
<kuid2:72938:40141:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40142:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 01B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40143:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 02B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40144:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40145:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40146:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-01B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40147:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-02A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40148:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-02B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40151:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine 01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40153:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine 02A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40154:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine 02B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40155:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine P-01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40157:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine P-02A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40175:2> M: UltraTreez-Cottonwood 01A (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40176:1> M: UltraTreez-Cottonwood 01(B)
<kuid2:72938:40186:3> M: UltraTreez-Poplar 01 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40192:3> M: UltraTreez-Poplar 05 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40193:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 02(A)
<kuid2:72938:40194:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 02(B)
<kuid2:72938:40195:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 03(A)
<kuid2:72938:40196:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 03(B)
<kuid2:72938:40237:2> M: UltraTreez-Mountain Maple 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40265:2> M: UltraTreez-Tasmanian Blue Gum 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40267:2> M: UltraTreez-Tasmanian Blue Gum 03 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40275:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 01 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40276:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 02 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40277:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 03 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40278:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 04 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40299:2> M: UltraTreez-Flooded Gum 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40316:1> M: UltraTreez-Silver Birch 02 (Perfect Series)
<kuid2:72938:40317:1> M: UltraTreez-Silver Birch 03 (Perfect Series)
<kuid2:72938:41116:2> M: UltraGrass-DK Dry Single 01(M)
<kuid2:72938:41124:2> M: UltraGrass-LT Green Single 01(S)
<kuid2:72938:41129:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR LT Green Single 01 Tall (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41130:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR LT Green Single 01 Medium (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41131:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR LT Green Single 01 Small (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41138:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR DK Dead Single 01 Tall (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41140:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR DK Dead Single 01 Small (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41257:1> M: UltraGrass- Wildflower, Red 01 Medium (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41259:1> M: UltraGrass- Wildflower, White 01 Medium (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41315:2> M: UltraShrubs-01-Set Freeware
<kuid2:72938:41337:2> M: UltraShrubs-G Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41338:2> M: UltraShrubs-H Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41342:2> M: UltraShrubs-G-01 Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41343:2> M: UltraShrubs-H-01 Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41345:2> M: UltraShrubs-J-01 Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:43001:1> M: UltraTreez-Juniper 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:43002:1> M: UltraTreez-Juniper 02 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:43003:1> M: UltraTreez-Juniper 03 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:43504:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 01 (Billboard Series)
<kuid2:72938:43505:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 02 (Billboard Series)
<kuid2:72938:43506:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 03 (Billboard Series)
<kuid2:72938:43507:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 04 (Billboard Series)

any clues much appreciated.

Chris
 
crisger said:
Hello all
I ended up downloading and attempting to install a DRGW route that called for a bunch of trees and veg that TANE thinks are Faulty.

does anyone have information on these and how to fix them so they work? i could try moving the install to 2012 or 2010 as i have those versions of Trainz also..

here are the list of faulty veg items:

<kuid2:72938:40016:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(A,S)
<kuid2:72938:40017:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(A,W)
<kuid2:72938:40020:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(C,S)
<kuid2:72938:40021:2> M: UltraTreez-Wisconsin Spruce 01(C,W)
<kuid2:72938:40141:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40142:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 01B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40143:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 02B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40144:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce 01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40145:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40146:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-01B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40147:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-02A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40148:2> M: UltraTreez-Blue Spruce P-02B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40151:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine 01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40153:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine 02A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40154:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine 02B (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40155:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine P-01A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40157:2> M: UltraTreez-Scotch Pine P-02A (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:40175:2> M: UltraTreez-Cottonwood 01A (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40176:1> M: UltraTreez-Cottonwood 01(B)
<kuid2:72938:40186:3> M: UltraTreez-Poplar 01 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40192:3> M: UltraTreez-Poplar 05 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40193:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 02(A)
<kuid2:72938:40194:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 02(B)
<kuid2:72938:40195:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 03(A)
<kuid2:72938:40196:1> M: UltraTreez-White Poplar 03(B)
<kuid2:72938:40237:2> M: UltraTreez-Mountain Maple 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40265:2> M: UltraTreez-Tasmanian Blue Gum 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40267:2> M: UltraTreez-Tasmanian Blue Gum 03 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40275:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 01 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40276:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 02 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40277:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 03 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40278:3> M: UltraTreez-White Pine 04 (Performance/MP)
<kuid2:72938:40299:2> M: UltraTreez-Flooded Gum 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:40316:1> M: UltraTreez-Silver Birch 02 (Perfect Series)
<kuid2:72938:40317:1> M: UltraTreez-Silver Birch 03 (Perfect Series)
<kuid2:72938:41116:2> M: UltraGrass-DK Dry Single 01(M)
<kuid2:72938:41124:2> M: UltraGrass-LT Green Single 01(S)
<kuid2:72938:41129:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR LT Green Single 01 Tall (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41130:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR LT Green Single 01 Medium (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41131:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR LT Green Single 01 Small (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41138:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR DK Dead Single 01 Tall (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41140:1> M: UltraGrass- ZR DK Dead Single 01 Small (ZecRail Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41257:1> M: UltraGrass- Wildflower, Red 01 Medium (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41259:1> M: UltraGrass- Wildflower, White 01 Medium (Freeware)
<kuid2:72938:41315:2> M: UltraShrubs-01-Set Freeware
<kuid2:72938:41337:2> M: UltraShrubs-G Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41338:2> M: UltraShrubs-H Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41342:2> M: UltraShrubs-G-01 Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41343:2> M: UltraShrubs-H-01 Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:41345:2> M: UltraShrubs-J-01 Freeware (S1)
<kuid2:72938:43001:1> M: UltraTreez-Juniper 01 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:43002:1> M: UltraTreez-Juniper 02 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:43003:1> M: UltraTreez-Juniper 03 (Series Two)
<kuid2:72938:43504:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 01 (Billboard Series)
<kuid2:72938:43505:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 02 (Billboard Series)
<kuid2:72938:43506:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 03 (Billboard Series)
<kuid2:72938:43507:1> M: (B) UltraTreez-Conifer 04 (Billboard Series)

any clues much appreciated.

Chris
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This error?
- VE71: Unsupported SpeedTree version for mesh: speedtreemesh.srt
Then the trees use an older version of SpeedTree, which is not supported in T:ANE. As i can see on the most trees, they are made for Trainz 2010, not for T:ANE.
Regards,
Roine
 
If the error is the one Roine has posted, only the creator is able to resolve this (or you could replace the trees in an earlier version of Trainz with ones that will work in T:ANE).

Shane
 
The trees have to be replaced with TANE compatible trees in an earlier version like Shane said, then those can be replaced in TANE with Speedtrees:

This is the Durango route.

durango1.jpg


Replaced the track with procedural 891mm track from this site:

http://www.banbyggarna.se/stl/scenery/track/page1.html

Harold
 
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boleyd said:
Those pine trees look odd with layers of branches stacked on the tree trunk.
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Think I have replaced those with others since that screen shot to show the retrack, there are lots of trees on DLS.

1887_mbc7.jpg


Harold
 
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Hi and thank you all very much for the suggestions. I was not sure of the age of the Durango route but it did look like it was older. I really appreciate the help on all of this, the proceedural track replacement is i fear beyond my abliity to replace but i may be able to deal with the trees...will see if i can figure out how that can be done....thanks again all

I have new Depots made for the route and a lot of other new structures and hoped to try them out on the route. I live in Pagosa Springs near by and know the route and the equipment very well....and am working on a number of Colorado routes including Rollins Pass (Moffat Road, 1910 and 1950), Giplin Tramway 1910 and Cripple Creek 1910 and RGS making mines for Pandora.

Does anyone know who made SpeedTrees and how to get in touch with them?

Chris
 
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crisger said:
Hi and thank you all very much for the suggestions. I was not sure of the age of the Durango route but it did look like it was older. I really appreciate the help on all of this, the proceedural track replacement is i fear beyond my abliity to replace but i may be able to deal with the trees...will see if i can figure out how that can be done....thanks again all

I have new Depots made for the route and a lot of other new structures and hoped to try them out on the route. I live in Pagosa Springs near by and know the route and the equipment very well....and am working on a number of Colorado routes including Rollins Pass (Moffat Road, 1910 and 1950), Giplin Tramway 1910 and Cripple Creek 1910 and RGS making mines for Pandora.

Does anyone know who made SpeedTrees and how to get in touch with them?

Chris
Click to expand...

Chris,

To update your currently installed track to Pro-track, you can use the bulk replace assets tool, which is located on the File menu. Simply put in what you want to replace in one column by dragging that item into it from the list of tracks in the Surveyor track menu. And repeat with the track you want to replace it with in the other column. Hit the replace button and watch the progress bar. :)

Once replaced you do need to check the switches because if your track is too tight, they will not work and will actually show a red circle instead of white or yellow. To fix you need to drag the track a bit and change the diverging point of the points.

Anyway...

The trees in Harold's picture look like RMM's wonderful creations. The others, the ones with the square branches I think came from Pofig, who is no longer active as far as I know.

RMM's trees are available on the DLS. All of his trees begin with st_ and have RMM in the name. For these spruce or pines, look for Elka since he's a Russian content creator. The good news is he has made a bunch of similarly named trees in TS12 and shares the same Kuid but at a lower version number. This means you can install the route in TS12 and replace the trees there using the replace asset tool, and then import the route into T:ANE. When you bring the route into T:ANE, along with its dependencies, the trees will be marked as out of date, which means you can download the T:ANE version.

Sadly Britanny, (mcguirel) is no longer doing stuff in Trainz, and seems to have disappeared from the forums.

If you are interested in creating your own Speed Trees, you'll need to purchase an expensive developer kit from IDV. http://www.speedtree.com/ I've never fully pursued this avenue due to the cost and I'm not sure if you need a special developer plug-in to their program to create T:ANE compatible trees. To be honest, replacing them with RMM's creations might be the best route to go in the long run that's the easiest way. That is, unless, you are interested in creating trees yourself.
 
There are bunches of freeware mcguirel trees on DLS and are the best looking north American deciduous trees:

coastal7.jpg


Harold
 
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