confused trees

[WillPac]

Been working on Phil Skene's awesome Industrail for 2010. Setting up industries, etc. and trying to make it a US layout. Did go to Edit Route and changed it from "Australia" to "United States", so now the traffic is on the right side of the road instead the left.

However, the trees still think they are down under. When I edit the environment and change the month, the leaves are green and the trees are full in September thru January.

I looked at the config file and the only thing I could see that might affect it was the longitude/latitude entries. I changed those to correspond to Chicago (this layout looks like something around the Great Lakes), but the trees are still not acting like they're in the Northern Hemisphere still.

Am I missing something? What is the third number in the config's longitude/latitude lines (the default was -1 LON and 1 for LAT)? Does that need to be changed?

I love the way these trees look and how they sway in the breeze and change colors with the seasons. I'd just like to get them to KNOW what season it IS! Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Twodorgs]

Hi WillPac,

It might help if you tell us the names of the trees involved.
Most native Australian trees do not loose their leaves in winter or change colour.
You may have to replace the trees with with ones that suit your climate.

Lindsay

 

[WillPac]

Hi WillPac,

It might help if you tell us the names of the trees involved.
Most native Australian trees do not loose their leaves in winter or change colour.
You may have to replace the trees with with ones that suit your climate.

Lindsay

I actually DID go thru and used "Replace Asset" and put in ones like Tree White Oak 01/02, etc. I changed the month with these on the layout and they DO change colors, drop leaves, etc., just at the wrong time of year still for here in the Northern Hemisphere.

 

[Twodorgs]

Hi WillPac,

Hmm, Interesting.

OK try this, create a new layout making sure that the region is "United States".
Put a couple of White Oaks on the board and make sure they drop their leaves in the right season, if they do;
With your new layout open merge the layout with the confused trees to it and save it with a new name.
Exit and reload your new layout and see what happens with the tree's seasons?

Good luck,
Lindsay

 

[bobhahn]

Prickly but wavy

Also, watch out for any cactus that sways in the breeze. Apparently they have those in Australia. I've never seen one in the United States.

 

[Steamdemon]

Confused trees? As in they think they are something else other than trees?

 

[WillPac]

Hi WillPac,

Hmm, Interesting.

OK try this, create a new layout making sure that the region is "United States".
Put a couple of White Oaks on the board and make sure they drop their leaves in the right season, if they do;
With your new layout open merge the layout with the confused trees to it and save it with a new name.
Exit and reload your new layout and see what happens with the tree's seasons?

Good luck,
Lindsay

Lindsay:

Did what you suggested... and the result? Well, we can call it The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

The Good? The trees on my new route changed when I am used them to doing so (September instead of March) and when I merged it to the Industrail route, all of those trees followed suit, so they now know they are in the Great Lakes area of the US's upper Midwest.

The Bad? Well, merging the Industrail route reset ALL of the industry tracks to zero, meaning all production/consumption rates and initial stockpiles of commodities were back at zero, plus any queues set up on the MINs (Multiple Industry New) were gone, so I had to start over at setting those. Annoying but not that big a deal.

But then the Ugly? As I was working on fixing the bad, I clicked on one industry track to see if it was set up, clicked the check button to close it, and the tree near this track suddenly vanished. I didn't delete it but it just disappeared.

So I went to add it back, found it in the surveyor list, but it no longer showed in the preview window, nor would it add to the layout! In fact, almost NONE of the trees would show up or add to the layout anymore, even those already ON the layout that I could pick...it would find that tree in the surveyor list but still would not show in the preview window nor add to the layout.

I went ahead and put in a couple of trees that WOULD show up, when suddenly the White Oak that had vanished was back! I thought that was odd but was glad it fixed itself--until it happened again a few minutes later. Now I had rolling stock was wouldn't show in the window nor add to the layout, even ones I had already added just minutes before!

This is the same exact problem I recently encountered on my laptop with TRS2006. Now it's on my desktop with 2010! I finally shut it off without saving and restarted. Everything was showing up fine when I saved and quit for the night, but I am still seriously afraid this is gonna pop up again, and I have NO idea why.

 

[shaneturner12]

When you merged the routes, did you remember to include the session data? M.I.N information is stored in the session.

Shane

 

[WillPac]

When you merged the routes, did you remember to include the session data? M.I.N information is stored in the session.

Shane

How do you do that? The only things that come up when I choose to merge two routes are the route-layers (2) and one session-layer. How do get one or more of the sessions I have in the original route to merge into this new one? I get pretty much was this pic shows (not mine, but this is the standard we all see, I think)

 

[shaneturner12]

I have a feeling that due to the way merging works, you lose the session data during the merge if there are not two session-layers to merge.

Shane

 

[klambert]

I have exactly the same problem as the OP, I'm making a layout set in London but all the trees are bare and its set in August

 

[WillPac]

I have exactly the same problem as the OP, I'm making a layout set in London but all the trees are bare and its set in August

Did you set the route in United Kingdom when you created it? If not, you can go to Edit Route and change it...hopefully that will help. My problem was that mine is an outstanding Australian route. I edited it to make it US, but it only changed the road traffic from left-side running to right-side.