Can I get Trainz on my PC?

[fran1]

I pulled the card out but then realised that my monitor cable uses that card, and there is no other port I can attach the monitor cable to.

They all do, the rear of the gpu is where the cable is supposed to fit.

 

[Zeldaboy14]

UTC? What's that?

Ultimate Trainz Collection. It's the version (I think) that came out before TRS04 did.

 

[sonic7]

Odd.Are you able to take a nice quality image of your logic board? This way I can see what type of sockets you have.

I've taken photographs. Do you have an email address I can send you them to?

 

[sonic7]

Ultimate Trainz Collection. It's the version (I think) that came out before TRS04 did.

Do you have a free download link?

 

[cascaderailroad]

UTC, TRS2004, TRS2006, TC1&2 can be found on EBay, but be forwarned that some are perviously pre-registered discs, installed by someone else, and can not be re-registered again.

Also with these old versions, you will spend thousands of hours backdating assets, and backdating thousands of the assets dependencies, just to get an asset to show up.

TRS2004 is difficult enough as it is old, TRS2006 and TC 1&2 are as low as I would recommend going ... TS10 is a pretty good version, and TS12 is even better.

Jointed Rail has a sale on TS12, and it is pre-SP1, so you can have the best of both TS12 worlds.

The only positive thing about super antiquated versions of Trainz is that tey will run on low end PC's with integrated graphics, which is why I still use TRS2006, as surveyor is very simplistic, wit no complicated layers.

An unrelated question that I have is: As a TS12, TS10, TS09 route can not be backdated into lower versions of Trainz (because of the 5/10 grid) ... Can a TRS2006 route be backdated into TRS2004 ? ? ?

 

[sonic7]

A few things to try.
Run trainz as admin, also run in compatibility mode for windows xp sp2 or 3 (sp= service pack).
Don't know about the demos but the installed 2006 needs to be build 3337 or 3092 or it won't run.
Your computer as it is is plenty powerful enough for 2006. Recommended specs 1 gb ram, 2ghz single core cpu and a 128 mb cpu.

I've tried that but I keep getting incompatibility prompts- video card and update drivers, etc. In 2004 it bluescreens in admin.

 

[shaneturner12]

If you are getting blue screen errors, something is seriously wrong with your system.

Each blue screen error has an error code in capitals (example IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL) - is it the same each time?

Shane

 

[sonic7]

If you are getting blue screen errors, something is seriously wrong with your system.

Each blue screen error has an error code in capitals (example IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL) - is it the same each time?

Shane

dxgkrnl.sys was the cause of the crash each time. Bug check code =0x00000116

 

[NeonTheGriffon]

They all do, the rear of the gpu is where the cable is supposed to fit.

Logic boards with built in cards have them on the I/O shield in the back of the computer.

I've taken photographs. Do you have an email address I can send you them to?

Send me a Private Message, I won't share my email with the recent amount of immature kids after me swarming about this board.

Ultimate Trainz Collection. It's the version (I think) that came out before TRS04 did.

For the love of everything, don't do what he says. You're throwing money down the toilet.

 

[fran1]

"Logic boards with built in cards have them on the I/O shield in the back of the computer."

The x1600 is a graphics card pci-e or agp. There is also a mobility version for laptops.
Sonic said a wire was attached to it going to his monitor which makes it one of the former.
Not state of the art but good enough.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/other/pages/x1600-specifications.aspx

 

[NeonTheGriffon]

"Logic boards with built in cards have them on the I/O shield in the back of the computer."

The x1600 is a graphics card pci-e or agp. There is also a mobility version for laptops.
Sonic said a wire was attached to it going to his monitor which makes it one of the former.
Not state of the art but good enough.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/other/pages/x1600-specifications.aspx

I'm quite aware of that, I was attempting to see if his board had integrated where he could just use a VGA cable to see if the graphics card was causing it. Like I said, Myself and many others I talk to have experienced BAD issues with ATI cards.

 

[NeonTheGriffon]

Note to future readers: I'm currently assisting OP through means of private messaging. Thank you.

 

[johnwhelan]

I'm quite aware of that, I was attempting to see if his board had integrated where he could just use a VGA cable to see if the graphics card was causing it. Like I said, Myself and many others I talk to have experienced BAD issues with ATI cards.

Whilst others such as myself have found them very reliable, we ran about 5,000 at one time.

Cheerio John

 

[NeonTheGriffon]

Whilst others such as myself have found them very reliable, we ran about 5,000 at one time.

Cheerio John

Video cards, like everything else in this world, are a mixed bag. You either get a great experience like I do with nVidia and Nikon/Nikkor products, or you get multiple bad experiences that make you divert back to your original choice (ATI, Canon, Windows 8, etc.)
What did you do with all of those cards though? I'm interested mass computing like that.

 

[JCitron]

dxgkrnl.sys was the cause of the crash each time. Bug check code =0x00000116

Have you tried switching from Open/GL to DirectX in the Options? That can make a big difference too. ATI cards, especially older ones don't like Open/GL so much and run better with DirectX. The fact that you are getting BSODs concerns me. I suggest that you run some diagnostics on your computer. The drive could be failing, or your memory is bad. Also clean your PC of any dust and dirt as that can cause CPU overheating, etc., which leads to BSODs.

Regarding running... Don't bother with compatibility mode for XP. Instead use run as administrator. XP Compatibility mode does weird things, for a lack of computer terminology for that.

John

 

[NeonTheGriffon]

Have you tried switching from Open/GL to DirectX in the Options? That can make a big difference too. ATI cards, especially older ones don't like Open/GL so much and run better with DirectX. The fact that you are getting BSODs concerns me. I suggest that you run some diagnostics on your computer. The drive could be failing, or your memory is bad. Also clean your PC of any dust and dirt as that can cause CPU overheating, etc., which leads to BSODs.

Regarding running... Don't bother with compatibility mode for XP. Instead use run as administrator. XP Compatibility mode does weird things, for a lack of computer terminology for that.

John

His computer looks relatively clean from the photos he emailed me. I'd recommend just backing up data onto an external, wiping the drive a few times, and reinstalling windows. There could be a faulty driver or something causing BSOD issues as well.

 

[shaneturner12]

According to the details I've been reading, it's related to a timed out graphics driver reset/recovery - I would check that you are running the correct drivers.

If it keeps happening, this link may help: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2665946

Shane

 

[JCitron]

According to the details I've been reading, it's related to a timed out graphics driver reset/recovery - I would check that you are running the correct drivers.

If it keeps happening, this link may help: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2665946

Shane

I've seen that before too. Being an ATI card though, I'd ensure it's running DirectX and not Open/GL which Trainz defaults to. I've seen this error before with Open/GL settings.

You have to remember too that even though the BSOD is saying one thing, it could very well be something else including a corrupted driver or software causing this, so it's a good idea to run some diagnostics. I had a totally weird issue where I would install NT 4.0 Workstation all the way but the system wouldn't boot. I changed the hard drive for another one, also brand new, but that didn't help. The problem was the RAM.

John

 

[shaneturner12]

Indeed - that's why the codes come in useful as well (especially if it's 0x05).

Shane

 

[NeonTheGriffon]

I've seen that before too. Being an ATI card though, I'd ensure it's running DirectX and not Open/GL which Trainz defaults to. I've seen this error before with Open/GL settings.

You have to remember too that even though the BSOD is saying one thing, it could very well be something else including a corrupted driver or software causing this, so it's a good idea to run some diagnostics. I had a totally weird issue where I would install NT 4.0 Workstation all the way but the system wouldn't boot. I changed the hard drive for another one, also brand new, but that didn't help. The problem was the RAM.

John

I had a similar issue installing OS X 10.8 on my HP, the included western digital drive temporarily became unresponsive. A few scrubbings later and it works just fine, but nobody knows why it happened. Even WD is puzzled (I'm looking to replace it though, I despise WD drives with a passion).