Does your updates video drivers mean that Auran can stand down on this requset now?
Indeed question answered, post a sticky to that effect with a "no really, please update and you'll see the difference", note...
Campaign to retain full DLS for TRS2004/06
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Indeed question answered, post a sticky to that effect with a "no really, please update and you'll see the difference", note...
Amazing what a few new bits can do for your FPS numbers. :clap:
I hope that everyone else who claims that TS2010 has worse performance than previous versions has taken notes.
They already did announce this after Vista came out but had to change their mind after howls of protest from just about every user of WinXP as Vista was not doing what it was supposed to be doing. Hence M$ produced WinXP SP3 well AFTER announcing to stop supporting it
.Sounds like parallels of what we see and read here.
I could understand it if TS10 is somewhat perfect running, possibly in time to come but NOT YET. Just check its SP2 and see what I mean
. I had to uninstall SP2 as this broke some features I would have been happy with.To return to the OP's asking, count me in of one supporting you.
In the past I bought:
Trainz
TRS04 4x
Content Creator's Art Source CDs
TRS06 2x
TC3
Some route CD/DVD's
TS09
TS10
Have always been on FCT since joining this forum
Still have a 1 year FTC to complete
Have a lifetime (10 year) FCT to start after the above
Created over 400 items for various TRS and TS versions on the DLS
Create now exclusively for TS09/10
Plus at least 10 or more other non Trainz games from AURAN's shop's web pages.
As can be seen, I also did my bid to support AURAN :wave:.
My 2 cents worth.
*Edit: I should have read ALL the pages after the one I quoted from, then I would have seen other people said similar as I did above
. In any case after reading all pages in this thread, my comments still stand as they are.Cheers
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Buildings/Structures
In an attempt to keep my installation of 2010 pure for use in "Native" mode, I went to the DLS and unticked all but "TS2009SP4/TS2010", under "Category" entered "Buildings/Structures".
Search results "No downloads found".
Is Auran shooting itself in the foot with their new policies regarding support.
In an attempt to keep my installation of 2010 pure for use in "Native" mode, I went to the DLS and unticked all but "TS2009SP4/TS2010", under "Category" entered "Buildings/Structures".
Search results "No downloads found".
Is Auran shooting itself in the foot with their new policies regarding support.
How often does it have to be said, the object version is often the minimum required and not the maximum? I make new objects for TS2010 but will label them for an older version if I don't use one of the newest features.
Try searching for 2009 + 2009SP4/2010...
There's no benefit to setting a scenary item as 2010 only unless it uses:
a) speedtreez based features
b) scripted layer changes
As those are the only two features really that 2010 features that 2009 doesn't.
Scripted layer changes aren't likely to be on building items anyway, it's something that you'd more likely see on a route.
It's a myth that everything in native mode has to be using TS2009/TS2010 features.
Here's "Stella Street", one of many streets soon to be released:
I only have TS2010 on my machine, and only run in native mode, but I'll be releasing this as TRS2004 standard.
I've had bumpmapping on this, but as I've said before, I think it's a waste of time on most Trainz assets however good it looks, so it will be released without it.
In fact, I'd avoid anything other than rolling stock that uses bumpmapping.
So don't cheat yourself out of good TRS2004 content because the hype says you shouldn't run it in TS2010.
Smiley.
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Isn't that the point of this entire issue. If you create for older versions and upload to the DLS, then those older versions will eventually disappear. It's the same with TS2009 content, eventually it will disappear also. Yes, I know that there are third party sites that will host older content, but there is NO single source that can replace the DLS for older content.
Mike
For all of the TS2010 fans out there, if you create in 2009 (or older) because you really don't need the 2010 features, then eventually, the 2009 content will probably disappear because they don't meet 'current' standards.
I'm against any content disappearing from the DLS just because it has a 2004 tag on it. Personally, I'm not going to spend countless hours on a steam locomotive just to have it disappear from the DLS in 3 or 4 years because some consider it old.
Mike
Well, they will disappear from one of the places you have it stored.
Why does there have to be?
It's been great having one place to upload as a main storage, but times change.
Auran have changed the way they work (rightly so, long overdue), now it's time content creators changed their habits too.
For instance, my content will be released in 2 locations, the DLS and TPR Download Depot.
When the DLS stops allowing some people to download, I will be uploading said content to my website, so there will always be at least 2 places people can get my content, regardless of what version they're using.
Route creators should also get into the habit of checking where they got their content from before releasing their route.
As we travel past September, this is going to be important for anyone downloading routes.
Smiley.
Why?
Convenience mainly. Sometimes, what is seen as progress is actually regression, but this topic has been debated to death. Those on each side of this virtual fence have their view and I seriously doubt that views are going to change. This issue will eventually be the great divide for Trainz and Auran in my unvalued opinion.
This is one content creator that's probably not going to change his habits. My 04 content works just fine in TS09 and I see no reason that it should disappear just because it doesn't have an 09 tag on it nor should I be denied uploading 04 content as long as it works fine in 09/10. I know that this argument is mute at this point and I accept it as a done deal.
As far as route building, I've about given that up too. I try to use only assets that are either built-in or on the DLS (again for convenience) so that the downloader wouldn't have to search all over the place for the dependencies. Keeping track of assets as I build a route and the location where that asset is available is just a little much for me unless I make a job out of it and start releasing it as payware. Besides, I'm not really sure how I would keep track of where I got thousands of indiviual assets as I build the route. Great in theory, but a little to cumbersome for me in practice.
To each his own and I don't begrudge all of you that are sold on 2009/2010, and even though I've bought them both, I probably won't be boarding this particular train. So I'll just stay at the station and wave to you as you leave.
Mike
Assuming by 'doesn't meet current standards' you mean 'has errors, and doesn't work on current versions', then I'd say that's fair enough, especially if the author isn't willing to update it to fix the errors.
Which is, after all, what this is all about.
Nothing to do with the author NOT willing. Some authors sadly are no longer on this planet, some find the changes of configurations too complex to understand. Some are just growing old and after 8 to 10 years or whatever of Trainz maybe the little grey cells are getting a little rusty and they have better things to do than juggle ever changing configurations.
So says the old trainz mariner as he watches his leaky, faulty sailing ships and barges wallowing heavy and low down in the water with their cargoes of "so called faults", heading out to sea in September and fade off into the distance.
Never mind they are all heading to the Blender Game Engine and will find homes at Conway, Liverpool and on the Ribble.. B :wave:
See UKTS ship simulators forum
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No, I don't mean that at all. For example, is it the creator's fault that 09 flags the 'icon' tag or that alpha's are now a problem although we did it the way that auran told us to in the past. We didn't create these errors. Who is to say what is not an error in 2009/2010 won't be an error in 20xx. Not going to waste my time creating if the goal is always moving.
Yes, I know all about the error checking faults of the past, but it wasn't my problem that Auran accepted uploaded content with errors. Why should I be punished. If my content has errors, I'll gladly try to fix them, but just to make a blanket decision not to allow uploads of 04 content is short sighted.
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No where have I seen that content at version 2.4 that is not faulty will be removed from the DLS.
Cheerio John
I can confirm that my framerates DOUBLED from TC3 to TS10, that's when I realised I had to move on. I wish others in this community could reach the same understanding.
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