C&O Steam Turbine

I have been waiting FOREVER for someone to do one of these:udrool: . Give me time after I get home to look around on the net, I'll try to find some plans for you.
 
That's one mean looking turbine, wish I had drawing but I don't, I'd love to see that in trainz;)

Cheers,

Lorin
 
Hello CloakedGhost,

Overland Models must have gotten drawings from somewhere. Maybe they would be willing to tell you where they got them if they are sure you don't intend to produce a competitive model.

Bernie
 
bl4882 said:
Hello CloakedGhost,

Overland Models must have gotten drawings from somewhere. Maybe they would be willing to tell you where they got them if they are sure you don't intend to produce a competitive model.

Bernie
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I already e-mailed Overland models with my intentions to build a virtual-model of this turbine, they still haven't replied.

I think I've found the correct, technical, drawings located at the California State Museum Library. I just have to make a few calls and place an order and I might be ready to start a new project. The library features an extensive archive of Baldwin-Lima Hamilton drawings, which seems to include this turbine.
 
Are you planning to make this payware or freeware? That is one nice locomotive. Wasn't the only reason they were scrapped because the railroads found that steam power and traction motors don't mix so well?
 
From Wiki:

"Between 1947–1948, Baldwin built three unique coal-fired steam turbine-electric locomotives, designed for passenger service on the Chesapeake and Ohio Railway (C&O). Their official designation was M1, but because of their expense and poor performance they acquired the nickname "Sacred Cow". The 6,000-horsepower units, which were equipped with Westinghouse electrical systems, had a 2-C1+2-C1-2 wheel arrangement. They were 106 feet (32 m) long, making them the longest locomotives ever built for passenger service. The cab was mounted in the center, with a coal bunker ahead of it and a backwards-mounted conventional boiler behind it (the tender only carried water). These locomotives were intended for a route from Washington, D.C. to Cincinnati, Ohio but could never travel the whole route without some sort of failure. Coal dust and water frequently got into the traction motors. While these problems could have been fixed given enough time, it was obvious that these locomotives would always be expensive to maintain, and all three were scrapped in 1950."

I would love to see either one of these, or an S2 in TRS
 
I started one way back, before UTC, will email you plans. Problem I had was with the sound or where it was coming from I should say, it originates at a.cabfront some 20-30 feet from were it should be.
It's about 10mb, can your email handle that, if not I can post at TPR.
 
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@ - transitguard: Since my current line of unreleased models is directed towards payware this too will most likely be added to the payware list.

whitepass said:
I started one way back, before UTC, will email you plans. Problem I had was with the sound or where it was coming from I should say, it originates at a.cabfront some 20-30 feet from were it should be.
It's about 10mb, can your email handle that, if not I can post at TPR.
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Very interesting. This sounds like my lucky break, thank-you whitepass.

10mb sounds like the limit for my current hotmail account. If you can split the size and send two e-mails instead of one that is fine with me.

Otherwise if you don't want to do that and would prefer to just post it on Trainz Pro Routes, I wouldn't mind.

Thank you.

xxcloakedghostxx@hotmail.com
 
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I wonder if you could build the locomotive as three separate overlapping parts (front trucks, body in the center, rear trucks) like a garrett to make the sound behave correctly.
 
Stetrain; said:
I wonder if you could build the locomotive as three separate overlapping parts (front trucks, body in the center, rear trucks) like a garrett to make the sound behave correctly.
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The sound behave correctly? I don't understand.

This is how I understand how this locomotive works. Under the sleek exterior of this locomotive is basically a steam engine. Litererally, in every sense, you have the boiler and other operating parts of a basic steam locomotive "under the hood," so to speak. Like all steam locomotives, they have an exhaust in the form of something like a chimney stack. Exhaust comes out of this stack and this is where some sound is produced. On this locomotive the exhaust is located at the rear. The front of the locomotive (the area before the cab) contains a hopper that holds coal. The tender for this locomotive carried nothing but water. Unlike a regular steam locomotive, however, the steam is used to power a turbine generator of sorts, and the output power of this turbine generator is transmitted to, I believe, 8 traction motors. The rest of the axles either pilot the main trucks, or are used to support the ridiculous weight of this locomotive.
 
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greywolfretired said:
There is about 22 photos here and maybe the historical society would know where to get drawings.



http://www.cohs.org/cgi-bin/cohs_search.pl?st=steam+turbine&submit=Go
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I've already tried contacting the Historical Society about drawing plans, they don't have them I assume. I know for a fact that the California State Museum Library has "official" Baldwin technical drawings. However, to duplicate and copy these drawings would cost me $50.

I've seen the interesting pictures of this turbine on the Historical Society website and am interested in purchasing bigger copies. Due to my lack of funds, I will see how far my interest is held in obtaining such pictures.

I will not be doing a "Jawn Henry" steam turbine.
 
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i bought a book from the COHS of drawings of every steam locomotive the C&O ever had. i think the turbine will be included. It's currently on backorder if you want when i get it i can scan them in for ya.

I can't wait to see this finished i was thinking on starting this locomotive if i ever found diagrams of it but i see u beat me to it.
 
Nice Write-Up!

Cloaked Ghost,

Thanks for that little write-up. I couldn't possibly guess what that thing looked like under the skin. The designers sure thought "outside the box" on that one!

-- Russ
 
CloakedGhost275 said:

I've seen the interesting pictures of this turbine on the Historical Society website and am interested in purchasing bigger copies. Due to my lack of funds, I will see how far my interest is held in obtaining such pictures.
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I bought some diagrams from the COHS included is this one. check your PM box.

early marry Christmas ;):p
 
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