Bought new computer

Thanks, guys, I'm going to flip this question up to 'General Trainz' forum. More Trainzers lurking up there.
Seems lot's of folks posting their Q &A's there, rather than the specific topics......young people......no organization!.......
 
Thanks for info, MAGLEVSX. Don't know if I will have this 'black texture' problem. But I will post if it shows up. Hopefully not. My gpu is the GTX 570, which is a somewhat less powerfull, about 20%, than the monster GTX 580 series. Otherwise it's an identical card. I have found one post which cited that problem with the GTX 580 gpu on TRS 2010. Driver issues?
We'll see in a week or two. Must first decide, buy and install new Trainz!
 
I just looked up UK prices for the GTX580 and they range between "Fanfare"
£415 and £524!!! Hubba hubba. Here's me with a Tri Sli capable Mobo too?
If I win the Lottery today I could have 4.5 GB of graphics card.....:eek:
 
Nah, if I won the Lottery I would have the ultimate PC built then casually drop the specs on a PC forum.
I looked on Nvidia a couple of years ago and they did video servers for about £30,000 - something like that would be fine :mop:
 
It's not worth it. The tech gurus say that when in 2x or 3x SLI, only the memory from one gpu is available to the system! (?)
The GTX 570 series, an itentical card, but less powerfull (as noted above) runs about $400 in US. Two of those puppies, coupled up shuold give give you more than eough gpu power to run Trainz at high res. I planned my new rig to have the ability to run dual SLI GTX 570 cards, although I only have one card installed now. I ordered an expensive (and high quality) Corsair 1000w psu to accept the addition, if and when it comes. (I can sneak that new card home under my jacket and the Cheif Mate will never know.)
I wanted a 34' motor sailer too, but the Cheif Mate stepped on that years ago!
Ijust found the EVGA GTX 570 card on Amazon for $370 (US). I may be going SLI before the snow melts!
Regards:)
 
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It's not worth it. The tech gurus say that when in 2x or 3x SLI, only the memory from one gpu is available to the system! (?)


If the game takes advantage of multiple GPU’s the memory on each card is utilized.



The GTX 570 series, an itentical card, but less powerfull (as noted above) runs about $400 in US. Two of those puppies, coupled up shuold give give you more than eough gpu power to run Trainz at high res.
So how do you think two GTX 570’s in SLI would be of any use to Trainz? At what resolution and AA level would you think that two GTX 570’s would start to show any benefit to performance in Trainz?
 
I looked on Nvidia a couple of years ago and they did video servers for about £30,000 - something like that would be fine


That’s interesting seeing that the best performance you’re ever going to get out of Trainz (in its current form) can be had from a $1000.00 PC.
 
If the game takes advantage of multiple GPU’s the memory on each card is utilized.




So how do you think two GTX 570’s in SLI would be of any use to Trainz? At what resolution and AA level would you think that two GTX 570’s would start to show any benefit to performance in Trainz?

Please note the (?) at the end of the first statement. Seems to be a conflict of tech answers there.
On the second point, you know as well as I that dual cards will allow greater graphic detail at higher res than a single card. Don't argue!
I can't say at what performance level the cards will work, as I don't even have the game installed. However, gleaning through the threads I get the impression that increased performance and detail can be expected.

MY THIRD POINT! Please don't come crashing into my threads playing Grand Inquisitor! I find it rude, and somewhat condescending. If you got something to say then say it. I respect your your knowledge in things 1 'n 0's, All I ask is that you respect my door when you knock on it.
Regards:)
 
On the second point, you know as well as I that dual cards will allow greater graphic detail at higher res than a single card. Don't argue!


That is if the game engine that the game uses can take advantage of multiple GPU’s, which Trainz does not, nor any other primarily CPU dependent game.




I can't say at what performance level the cards will work, as I don't even have the game installed. However, gleaning through the threads I get the impression that increased performance and detail can be expected.
I suggest you “glean” through threads in a forum where users have more experience with the hardware in question then.


You could start in the flight sim forums where there have been countless threads on “just how much multiple GPU’s improve performance” in another CPU dependent game known as FSX.



Please don't come crashing into my threads playing Grand Inquisitor! I find it rude, and somewhat condescending. If you got something to say then say it. I respect your your knowledge in things 1 'n 0's, All I ask is that you respect my door when you knock on it.
No one’s playing “Grand Inquisitor” or being condescending nor am I “knocking on your” door. My responses are targeted towards many of those who happen to look in his forum for decent hardware info (most of which don’t even post) not the ones who have already made up their minds not to look past their own noses.
 
I checked with my gurus over at Digital Storm:
1. Video cards in SLI config will use thier individual on board vram. However that vram is not added between them. (i.e. 1.2 Gb vram on on two cards in SLI config is counted as 1.2Gb/card; not 2.4Gb between them.)
2.SLI is supported only if the game specifically supports it; i.e. it is game specific.

Does TRS 2010 support SLI?
Has anyone tested Trainz 2010 performance with SLI?
I vaguely remember seeing a thread on that subject several months ago, but a forum search came up with nada.

As for my nose.................
"Oh, no, young sir, You are too simple. Why you might have said a great many things. Why waste your opportunity? For example, thus: Aggressive: I assert that if that nose were mine, I'd have it amputated on the spot. Practical: How do you drink with such a nose? You must have a cup made especially. Descriptive: 'Tis a rock, a crag, a cape! A cape? Say rather, a penninsula! Inquisitive: What is that receptical? A razor case or a portfolio? Kindly: Ah, do you love the little birds so much that when they come to see you, you give them this to perch on. Cautious: Take care! A weight like that might make you top-heavy. Eloquent: When it blows, the tphoon howls, and the clouds darken! Dramatic: When it bleeds, the Red Sea. Simple: When do they unveil the monument? Military: Beware, a secret weapon. Enterprising: What a sign for some perfumer! Respectful: Sir, I recognise in you a man of parts. A man of....prominence! Or, Literary: Was this the nose that launched a thousand ships? These, my dear sir, are things you might have said, had you some tinge of letters or of wit to color your discourse. But wit? Not so, you never had an atom. And of letters, you need but three to write you down. A. S. S. Ass!"
Cyrano de Bergerac
 
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Re SLI mode, I think the result was no trainz doesn't.
According to the majority, 2010 is a big CPU user for rendering, so a good one is an absolute must.
 
I checked with my gurus over at Digital Storm:

You didn’t have to “check with your gurus over at Digital Storm” for that info.



Does TRS 2010 support SLI?
Has anyone tested Trainz 2010 performance with SLI?
Yes there’s been more than a few of us who have. Over the years I’ve tested SLI and Cross Fire and saw no benefit over just one high end GPU.

As I said before unless you are running some very high resolution (2560x1600 maybe) with AA cranked you aren’t going to see any benefit over a single high end card. Some of the CPU dependent games I’ve tested in the past have actually shown a performance decrease when in multiple GPU mode.

Just Google “multiple GPU’s with CPU dependent games”; plenty of info should come up.

As for my nose.................
Lol, actually steamboateng I wasn’t referring to your nose in particular, maybe my PM would explain things better.
 
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I gues it's about time to end this thread, but before doing so I'd like to tell you about Digital Storm.
If your in the market for a new rig, check out www.digitalstormonline.com. These folks make an excellent product for a reasonable price. They provide lots of info on hardware and purchasing decisions. In fact, it was DS, itself which stated that much more than $2000 of computer is icing on the cake.
They have a helpfull tech staff and great forums for support. Check it out!

Thanks again all for your input.............yes, even you djt!

Regads:)
 
This is an off-topic question, but I see you own both TRS 2009 & 2010, which do you prefer and why. I want to purchase soon....or maybe wait for next version?

Since getting things up and running with my PC I have hardly touched TRS2010 but today I Opened For Edit both my Routes and cpied them to TRS2010 then downloaded the missing content from the DLS. I haven't measured the FPS and so on in any scientific way but as far as I can see there is no difference between the two.
The only thing I noticed in TRS2010 was that one of my favourite locos (the LNER J39) used to have a problem with "Blowing off steam" in TRS2009 but this was cured in TRS2009. However it has returned in TRS2010.
 
! ordered the boxed set 0f TRS2010 from Amazon. It should be here early next week. Is it worth getting TRS2009 for the extra content?
 
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