Hi again everybody.
Well I thought my posting would liven up the thread and it certainly did that. Let's face it it has been pretty dull around here of late, so their is nothing like a good Christmas argument to set the spirit (LOL). So if I can address johns posting first and try to link in others
John again with the greatest respect to your above posting, but if interpret your first paragraph correctly you believe that Android is available on desktops which is not the case. It is at the present time only available on tablets and smartphones. There has been going on all year within Google a development to allow chromebooks and desktop chromebase machines to run android apps. However, the progress has slowed to crawl and the CEO of Google stated last week that their would be no full integration of Android and Google OS at any time in the foreseeable future.
The above I believe encompasses the major development in IT communication throughout 2016, that being it was the year that the smartphone became the first choice of communication for the vast majority of persons in developed countries. As Larry page stated at the start of the year, the smartphone will be the all powerful computer in people's hands for emails, texting, writing (voice dictating) documents, gaming, navigating and accessing information on a scale never witnessed before.
Yes, all the above can be carried out on a PC or desktop, but a smartphone is the only device which is totally and easily portable and with us to do any of the above at any time wherever we are. Evidence to the above happening throughout the year can be seen in the continuing decline of PC sales (down a further 6%) despite the release of windows 10, and also the decline in tablet sales on all platforms as smartphones gained the power to “sideline” them.
Therefore John whatever the problems in security on phones the seemingly unstoppable trend towards using them in almost everything we do will continue. Yes, people may have them snatched out of their hands or criminals may forge fingerprints and users will access dodgy websites but the uptake of the phone to do ever more in our lives will be ongoing and increase as the power of the devices increase.
Of course, much of the above security on those phones is in the hands of users. Do stupid things with them and you can expect disastrous results. As can be seen when you walk down any street or in any workplace office smartphones are now used constantly in almost everything we do, the keyboard is out and voice dictation on a smartphone casting to a large screen monitor in.
In the above there will be the need in many commercial and educational situations for better security and that is where Google OS has pitched its role. Anyone who has used that platform will know that if you try to access a website that the Google servers sense as insecure you now get an onscreen warning and access is denied.
As you say John many on this forum may still use their desktop PCs or Windows laptop for all communication, but with every respect to all forum members and this hobby that is not now the most common use of those static devices. A windows PC or laptop is great for very high end gaming but it is left wanting in today's “on the go” demands of communication.
I suspect that their are even on this forum many like myself who now only use their PC for a few well loved games. With myself that is Trainz 10-12 and Train simulator 15. Everything else is now done on mobile.
Bill
Well I thought my posting would liven up the thread and it certainly did that. Let's face it it has been pretty dull around here of late, so their is nothing like a good Christmas argument to set the spirit (LOL). So if I can address johns posting first and try to link in others
I don't recall specifying smartphones, Windows and Android are available on a variety of platforms including desktops.
I think you're confusing secure with what people do. Just because millions use an app to access their bank account doesn't mean its secure. Tescos for example.
Fingerprints, well yes but you can lift a fingerprint off a glass surface and create a mould from it. The moulds read reasonably well.
My favourite security tale at the moment, the Met police in London have worked out how to gain access to someone's Apple smartphone or tablet, you wait until the suspect is using it then grab the phone and keep it active. You don't need the password.
I think you're missing a point on the web site side. When you enter a web address it goes to a DNS server to be resolved. Many of the DNS servers do not have their security patches so without HTTPS you don't actually know if you've been directed to the correct web site or not. Beyond that it is very difficult to secure a web site. Most US banks for example have web sites that are vulnerable to having code added.
Strangely enough people running TANE often have a windows machine. These windows machines can run a variety of email packages. Unlike smartphones you don't have to change the machine often to keep them secure or did I misunderstand you?
If you were referring to passwords then the latest research on passwords recommends the use of a root password that has something added per site. The researchers found that forcing people to change their password frequently meant they used weaker simpler passwords.
Cheerio John
John again with the greatest respect to your above posting, but if interpret your first paragraph correctly you believe that Android is available on desktops which is not the case. It is at the present time only available on tablets and smartphones. There has been going on all year within Google a development to allow chromebooks and desktop chromebase machines to run android apps. However, the progress has slowed to crawl and the CEO of Google stated last week that their would be no full integration of Android and Google OS at any time in the foreseeable future.
The above I believe encompasses the major development in IT communication throughout 2016, that being it was the year that the smartphone became the first choice of communication for the vast majority of persons in developed countries. As Larry page stated at the start of the year, the smartphone will be the all powerful computer in people's hands for emails, texting, writing (voice dictating) documents, gaming, navigating and accessing information on a scale never witnessed before.
Yes, all the above can be carried out on a PC or desktop, but a smartphone is the only device which is totally and easily portable and with us to do any of the above at any time wherever we are. Evidence to the above happening throughout the year can be seen in the continuing decline of PC sales (down a further 6%) despite the release of windows 10, and also the decline in tablet sales on all platforms as smartphones gained the power to “sideline” them.
Therefore John whatever the problems in security on phones the seemingly unstoppable trend towards using them in almost everything we do will continue. Yes, people may have them snatched out of their hands or criminals may forge fingerprints and users will access dodgy websites but the uptake of the phone to do ever more in our lives will be ongoing and increase as the power of the devices increase.
Of course, much of the above security on those phones is in the hands of users. Do stupid things with them and you can expect disastrous results. As can be seen when you walk down any street or in any workplace office smartphones are now used constantly in almost everything we do, the keyboard is out and voice dictation on a smartphone casting to a large screen monitor in.
In the above there will be the need in many commercial and educational situations for better security and that is where Google OS has pitched its role. Anyone who has used that platform will know that if you try to access a website that the Google servers sense as insecure you now get an onscreen warning and access is denied.
As you say John many on this forum may still use their desktop PCs or Windows laptop for all communication, but with every respect to all forum members and this hobby that is not now the most common use of those static devices. A windows PC or laptop is great for very high end gaming but it is left wanting in today's “on the go” demands of communication.
I suspect that their are even on this forum many like myself who now only use their PC for a few well loved games. With myself that is Trainz 10-12 and Train simulator 15. Everything else is now done on mobile.
Bill
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