my 2 cents h222 stop being a critic cause im seeing a lot of know it all and no proof so if you want back up please or next time please keep in your corner and lentice there were occasions where there were 8 car evens sets for special occasions but it definitely wasnt a normal thing
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I'm giving him constructive criticism if you don't mind Jake, and hardly a know-it-all. A Queensland Railway Commissioner would never build a gradient that steep, any train, except for maybe light running electric trains at full speed, would get up that.
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Rather than blindly jumping to your friends aid in time of "persecution", perhaps actually look at the post that H222 is replying to - those grades are far from realistic, they're almost cartoonish. Perhaps we should stop helping each other as a community. I'll go ahead and create a loop-de-loop on a rollercoaster type of layout, and run 3801 on it, and if anyone tells me it's wrong, it must be cyber bullying. Grow up, not everything is a personal attack.
The only personal attacks in this thread are coming from your camp, so I'd suggest you cease lest a moderator cast you out.
Temprasphere
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Lets drop the banter and get back on topic showing trains! 
Forest_Runner
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Wow, Kent... just @#$&!*% wow!!!
Forest_Runner
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Ah, come off it mate... all of the shots are magnificent.
My picks are 4th and 6th. 4th is beautiful without an actual train... fine art that one. 6th - I love the dry creek bed effect... masterfully and inspirationally done.
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Not bad SM, going by your screenies they appear a bit low as most QR urban plats are 1.3m in height (Unsure how they are in height compared to UK practices). Although, this shouldn't be too much of a problem for the average surveyor technician of throwing in another foundation under these plats to suit the regional areas they're working on.
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Marty
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Marty
Thanks for the constructive critisim, I have since rectified the issue by the means of a gentle deviation that bypasses the route in the screenshots.
On the question, oh the 8 carriage Evens set, traddionally on the Brisbane Northside; the standard was 7 carriage but during heavy peak hour periods they rostered on 8 carriages but one some very rare cases during the really bad peak periods, they used one 9 carriage set by using a spare BU shunting in. My cousin who used to work at Mayne, told me about this. The Northside had longer platforms to take the max of 8 carriages for suburban.
On the southside; it was a whole different railway network; 4 carriage sets but during peak hour it was bumped up to 5 carriages. It was shorter due to the platform that could only take the max of 5/6 carriages.
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Michael Gitsham
QHR Commissioner Of Railways
On the question, oh the 8 carriage Evens set, traddionally on the Brisbane Northside; the standard was 7 carriage but during heavy peak hour periods they rostered on 8 carriages but one some very rare cases during the really bad peak periods, they used one 9 carriage set by using a spare BU shunting in. My cousin who used to work at Mayne, told me about this. The Northside had longer platforms to take the max of 8 carriages for suburban.
On the southside; it was a whole different railway network; 4 carriage sets but during peak hour it was bumped up to 5 carriages. It was shorter due to the platform that could only take the max of 5/6 carriages.
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Michael Gitsham
QHR Commissioner Of Railways
Seem to me KriKKitSt@r that anyone who makes any comment at ALL vaguely pointed at ANYONE you have regards for, is making a personal attack even if it is constructive. This will be my only comment on the matter as I never see your posts anyway. Only opened that one from a comment of a poster further down and wondered what was going on. You seem to be absolutely FULL of negativity and cannot make any comment that is even vaguely convivial towards anyone.
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They are true to height. I had help with that and checked them against recommended Australian stock.
The top of carriage floor height at tare for Brisbane suburban SX [tin sets] cars was 3 foot and 7 7/8 inches [* see below] on 33 inch diameter wheels. 1950s Sunlander cars eg MAS First sleeper, had same 2ft 9 in wheels. Data from 1991 QR rollingstock downloadable book http://www.4shared.com/file/51628062/6e14d99d/Rollingstock_Book_1991_A.html
The 1979 suburban electric sets also had same nominal size wheels as they are noted on same 1991 rollingstock pdf with 840 mm wheels which translates as 33.1 inches according to http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_many_inches_in_840mm
The top of country steam era QR goods sheds' platforms was nominal 2ft 6 in above rail level, as were cream sheds. On the other hand, what was labelled as "12 inch wooden faced platforms" in the QLD structure document I have, were 12 inches above rail platforms. These 12 inch wooden faced platforms date from earlier times and were used in rural and older outer suburban stations. Send PM if you need that QLD structure document's details. I have mentioned it before.
The locomotive hauled stainless steel suburban SX [tin sets] carriages were introduced to Brisbane's northside in 1961. The opening of the Merivale Cross River Bridge between Roma Street and South Brisbane Stations on 18 November 1978 allowed the larger main [Northside] suburban system based on Roma Street Station to be integrated with the Southside system based on South Brisbane Station. This meant the Southside platforms needed to be raised and lengthened to enable the northside system’s stainless steel coaches to be used on the routes previously based on South Brisbane Station. So before 1978, the southside platforms often were lower and shorter than the rebuilt north side ones on the Corinda, Roma St etc lines.
I note Chuffbuff mentions most QR urban plats are 1.3m in height, which I assume is height above ground not height above rail. I was noting suburban car heights above rail. I recall from the steam era that sometimes the carriage height did not match suburban platform heights so I had to step down to the platform from the carriage on some northside platforms, especially the unrebuilt in the 1960s stations.
[*] In case of formatting problems; 3 foot and 7 7/8 inches is 3 foot, seven and seven eighths inches.
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Peter
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Pinkenba and Nyanda are two possible maybe unrebuilt platforms available for measuring although Nyanda is still on main lines. I think Pinkenba is not on a traffic line any more. Maybe others. For a comparison of the rebuilt with the old, check the northern end of South Brisbane as the blocked off far end is unrebuilt.
One answer maybe for trainz is to get a picture of a carriage at the desired platform type in your time era and match that carriage / platform approx height relationship in surveyor mode.
Memo those discussing the number of SX and Evans cars in suburban sets matter; I have seen fairly complete lists somewhere so maybe you can search the usual places such as Railpage, Wheels on Steel or QRIG, if interested or if it is really bothering you.
EDIT; Grammar fix
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