I mainly stopped looking at the forums because of the amount of time I spend loading a page, it take me less time to write a message than it does for this to load. The good old days of 2004 when this site used to be fast, but on a bad note I didn't have a serial number for my copy of TRS2004 which I brought at NRM, good days. the content manager is a screw up as well in my opinion.
Auran sites very slow
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Corporal_Major
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I wondered which post to pick for a quote and I picked this one :hehe:
There was a similar thread about this at least a month ago, so this problem has been around for a little while. I am only guessing but about 2 months ago the forum did become slower.
I have not had the time delays that people mention here and I have no clue as why I am different to others. Since the last thread about this and some of the possible reason to why, I have been looking at the number of people on the forum each time I log on. To me, and I may be wrong, the forum is slowest when there are more people logged on. Of a morning Aussie time around 100 people are logged on and this is the slowest, when the number goes down to 50-70 people the forum speeds up. At the moment there are 94 people logged on and thus the forum is slower then other sites.
Craig
Hi Craig
Well that should not make it that slow I have just been on thr "Rugby League Fans" Forum (my other hobby) and that has 245 online and is lightning fast so it must be a servers or bandwidth problem that affects Auran.
As I said it is not the DLS itself that is slow once you can actually reach it download speeds are ok although moving from page to page is snail-like.
But all the logins /forums/profiles etc are at snails -pace compared with all other sites I visit.
Ron:wave:
Ron, there are now 114 people on the forum and it is faster to load threads etc, then when I posted my first post.
So that idea/reason for the forum to be slower has been shot down in flames :hehe:
Back to the drawing board :hehe:
Craig
the fourms where slow sat , but there now all right , could havce been
some problems with the net
yungmoneyonpoint
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yea man i agree with you,
12 min to load the dls
??
12 min to load the dls
??
This problem has been going on for months. There is a group of forum users (me included) who believe that the excessive over-use of graphics in both the signatures and popular screenshots section is the problem. We've tried to stir up the moderators, but as far as signatures are concerned our requests have fallen on death ears.
The signature issue is of prime concern because these get loaded every time a person visits a thread. Take this thread for example. It's been viewed over 300 times so far and that means caddylar's signature (second post in thread) which is five times larger than that allowed under Auran's Code of Conduct, has also been loaded over 300 times. That ads up to a massive 150 megabytes of bandwidth wasted just because of one signature alone. Unfortunately caddylar is not alone. There are dozens, maybe hundreds of oversize signatures out there and it all adds up.
Then take the screenshots. Most of these are massive both in physical dimensions and file size. It is rare to find a screenshot optimised for the Internet. Some are 300 dpi whilst others are uncompressed jpegs 200kb or more.
So think about this, although the forums themselves are slow, what really makes them slow is the way signatures and screenshots are handled. Say you visit a thread with 10 signatures. Before the thread even opens, the forum server sends you off to ten different photo storage web sites like Flicker or Fotobucket to collect the signatures. If any one of these sites is slow (and they usually are) the thread takes forever to download. If the server keeps the pics in its cache, that makes things worse. Then the forum server has to deal with the massive bandwidth issue.
Whether that's the entire problem with the slow forum I'm not sure, but it's certainly got a lot to do with it and for this reason, I believe graphic signatures should be banned, especially if the have nothing to do with Trainz.
The signature issue is of prime concern because these get loaded every time a person visits a thread. Take this thread for example. It's been viewed over 300 times so far and that means caddylar's signature (second post in thread) which is five times larger than that allowed under Auran's Code of Conduct, has also been loaded over 300 times. That ads up to a massive 150 megabytes of bandwidth wasted just because of one signature alone. Unfortunately caddylar is not alone. There are dozens, maybe hundreds of oversize signatures out there and it all adds up.
Then take the screenshots. Most of these are massive both in physical dimensions and file size. It is rare to find a screenshot optimised for the Internet. Some are 300 dpi whilst others are uncompressed jpegs 200kb or more.
So think about this, although the forums themselves are slow, what really makes them slow is the way signatures and screenshots are handled. Say you visit a thread with 10 signatures. Before the thread even opens, the forum server sends you off to ten different photo storage web sites like Flicker or Fotobucket to collect the signatures. If any one of these sites is slow (and they usually are) the thread takes forever to download. If the server keeps the pics in its cache, that makes things worse. Then the forum server has to deal with the massive bandwidth issue.
Whether that's the entire problem with the slow forum I'm not sure, but it's certainly got a lot to do with it and for this reason, I believe graphic signatures should be banned, especially if the have nothing to do with Trainz.
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this forum is slow even on a text-based browser
I thought you were surely in error here until I checked. . .
chuffing heck! - Half a meg for a signature banner is taking the whatsit.
It's not just the forums that suffer though. Unfortunately the DS is also a victim. Some of the thumbnail previews on content have overblown file sizes too. What worries me is, if a creator doesn't have the sense to compress the preview thumbnail properly, what are the chances they have been through their model and culled backfaces, unnecessary polys and given some good hard thought to texture sizes?? I suspect, zero.
Stuart
A text-based browser doesn't really help in a situation like this. It's the combined demand of all visitors that determines the speed of the server. You're doing the right thing but you still suffer with the rest of us.
Hey Weevil, you're right - I did make a mistake and a big one at that!
caddylar's signature is not five times over the legal size at all.
It's 185 times over the legal size!
It goes down in my book as the largest sig file I've ever seen, even when people made them 2,000 pixels wide in the old days.
caddylar's signature is not five times over the legal size at all.
It's 185 times over the legal size!
It goes down in my book as the largest sig file I've ever seen, even when people made them 2,000 pixels wide in the old days.
Thank you John, for pointing that out for me.
I have now done my part, and removed most of my signature.
Lars
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I noticed the problem a few weeks ago and notified the helpdesk. I received a reply back from Alan stating that he'd have Michael take a look at it. Perhaps it's time for a little fresh brains of the servers. A reboot once in awhile for the UBB forum servers is a good idea because the software gets slow after being up and running for awhile.
John
John
Corporal_Major
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Well I'm afraid it is not running quickly now at 2045hrs GMT here in the UK
pinkiepienter
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To all my dear fellow trainzers somewhere on this auran planet
I use and check the forum on a daily basis and cannot complain about speed or hickups....
I live in thailand use a wireless adsl modem so cannot complain more than the modem can carry.
Although since early December 2008 CM2 and CMp at the same time start troubling me and ever since downloading is more than a pain not to say impossible at all. I run them on a laptop with XP and a desktop vista 64k, 2006, 2009 and 2006 cmp is affected as well so its not just 2009 also on XP!
Still overall I am happy with the outlook and capabilities of Trainz and very patient.
i do the things i have to do,lots of it to keep busy and wait for better times.
The only reliable dls most of the time is FTP dls painstaking one at a time.
Alltogether I think Auran has to tune things on the servers and of course the bandwith is I think the main course of all the evil ever since.
What's your take on my thought?
have a nice trainz day
Roy
I use and check the forum on a daily basis and cannot complain about speed or hickups....
I live in thailand use a wireless adsl modem so cannot complain more than the modem can carry.
Although since early December 2008 CM2 and CMp at the same time start troubling me and ever since downloading is more than a pain not to say impossible at all. I run them on a laptop with XP and a desktop vista 64k, 2006, 2009 and 2006 cmp is affected as well so its not just 2009 also on XP!
Still overall I am happy with the outlook and capabilities of Trainz and very patient.
i do the things i have to do,lots of it to keep busy and wait for better times.The only reliable dls most of the time is FTP dls painstaking one at a time.
Alltogether I think Auran has to tune things on the servers and of course the bandwith is I think the main course of all the evil ever since.
What's your take on my thought?
have a nice trainz day
Roy
yungmoneyonpoint
New member
YES
it runs really slow these days, as if my cable internet was running like dialup
it runs really slow these days, as if my cable internet was running like dialup