atls xing and suicidal drivers (screenshot warning)

[justinroth]

At first, with a four lane yarnish road, one stopper on each side, they got stuck. Same setup different driver session, the ignored it altogether. Second I switched to two yarnish two lane divided highways, and they just kept running, every once in a while slowing down slightly. I can grab the kuids once at home. Thanks btw, I really appreciate everyone's help and boat's awesome system!(non-sarcastic)

 

[Dermmy]

Not realy a reply to the OP, but just a comment on ATLS and Yarn: I ahve a zillion ATLS/NCR crossings on Yarn roads and there is deffinitely no confict specific to the two systems, everything works exactly as it should. TS10/44088, YarnISH (not straight Yarn which should only be used TC and earlier) and I use the red and white version of the stopper, not the orange one though I doubt that matters..

@boat - that height problem might be Yarn roads which the YarnISH versions fix...

 

[justinroth]

I set up a route specifically to see what I could figure out, and it seems placing non-overlapping splines between the stoppers (the actual crossing part) works. At first I thought it was a distance problem considering it is a 5 track wide crossing. I was also under the impression that a spline before each stopper might work also, however I did not find this to work. So far I have not had any vehicles get stuck between or run the gate. I must admit though, this is somewhat prototypical for Ohio drivers :hehe:
edit: somewhat unrelated but maybe Boat could shed some light on this. When the first trigger is hit, trainz freezes up for around 2-3 seconds...anyone experience this?

 

[deneban]

Justin I think there is enough construction information in this thread to make successful ATLS stopping. To me it appears you continually vary your configuration during the thread, and reporting the results, but you don't rationaize these results with the principals stated by nicky and boat. If you understand the concepts, you do not need to experiment so much.

...and it seems placing non-overlapping splines between the stoppers (the actual crossing part) works....

Sorry I couldn't follow this description, do you mean did normal construction here with no run-around splines (and the runarounds are the overlappers)?

At first I thought it was a distance problem considering it is a 5 track wide crossing.

No, carz do not differentiate between normal roadway and grade crossing scenery parts. 5 car crossings is just like normal roadway. That is the non-ATLS basic behavior of Trainz.

I was also under the impression that a spline before each stopper might work also, however I did not find this to work.

The thread already went over this. The distance from the last roadway spline point to the stopper matters. See boat's post #12, tutorial page 8. If the roadway segment before the stopper is too short, carz won't see the stopper.

So far I have not had any vehicles get stuck between or run the gate. I must admit though, this is somewhat prototypical for Ohio drivers :hehe:

Even though I am from the NE, I will have to disagree, even as an anecdote. There are several live cams of Ohio grade crossings and those people are the most patient grade crossers I have ever seen. Look at Fostoria's cams and you'll wonder where they got their patience from.