Am I a Traitor

[lewisner]

Curious little thing.....I recently decided to put my virtually unused MSTS, "Great British Diesels" add on and "Train Sim Modeler" on Ebay as one lot as I never use them. Got 7 watchers in about 10 hours and 2 bids about 40 views.
Encouraged by this I thought about putting my "Rail Simulator" on so I checked out who else was selling.....there are about 7 up for auction with NO BIDS and one guy has it "brand new and unused" for £34.99!!!!
Doesn't seem to have set the Ebay market alight does it?

 

[wholbr]

Hi Lewisner And Everybody.
I am not surprised that there is not many bidders on eBay for the original Rail Simulator and I suspect that if people knew the truth about Railworks there would not be much call for that either.

The problem is that everything you do in Railworks is much more complicated than it would be in Trainz. Even setting up a quite straightforward scenario will in truth take you three times as long as any comparable setup with the Auran simulator. The major problem I have found is with AI consists. You cannot set them up and then ride along on them to see where any problems may be. With Railworks you have to set them up and then follow them with the player train to check that they run okay.

To those who say that there are good quality freeware assets available for Railworks my experience yesterday proved somewhat different and was one that many Trainz enthusiasts would have often come across. I downloaded a freeware consist from the UKTS.Site and installed into Railworks. I then went to use it in a scenario I am creating only to find as soon as I tried to run the scenario I was confronted with a whole list of faults and therefore it would not run. At least in Trainz you would not even have been able to install it into the setting as it would've come up in red.

With a bit of research it transpired that it was originally created for the original rail simulator and has not been fully updated to run in Railworks. Now as Trainz enthusiasts we would not recognize that problem would we.

So, if it had not been for the performance of Manchester United and the England cricket team i could well have left the weekend feeling rather deflated. However, due to the talents of our great lads I was left with the feeling that life is not so bad, and as for Railworks I can live with that.

I think it will say it all when I tell you I am back doing some work on my Trainz North Devon route tonight and it is like being back with an old friend.

To summarize, enjoying all the learning, as for the product becoming ever more questionable
Bill

 

[UP5521]

railworks,questionable,maybe,and while trainz may not be the most perfect product,there is a difference,for instance,the huge number of freeware content for download and more that trainz has to offer,which is more than I can say for the other simulator that we are speaking of,why as far as I can remember,I played that game and let me tell you that I was not happy with the limited number of steam engines that came with it, so I came back to trainz and never looked back,so I think it is safe to say,that I think you was not a traitor!

 

[Vern]

Seeing as you have far more experience in Railworks I will be interested in your views.

Bill

Can't comment directly on Bristol to Exeter as SWMBO has put my copy away for Christmas. Generally when I've put portals in my RW routes they've been at the furthest extents of the route and always with at least a train length between the last signal and the portal.

The situation sounds more symptomatic of the poor signalling AI where it seems trains in RW are actually being directed by some hidden node rather than the actual signal state. You should never have got a proceed aspect if the AI train hadn't cleared to the portal. I have seen AI trains ignore signals completely and in this case it seems we have a "wrong side" failure where the section is occupied but the player train gets a proceed aspect.