A Note On Heat
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In my opinion, the most convenient free application. By double-clicking on any line of readings, a real-time graph is displayed: https://www.hwinfo.com/
There are about a hundred readings. I've brought out the graphs that are important to me:
There are about a hundred readings. I've brought out the graphs that are important to me:
RetroRails12
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It was somewhat of a public service message, as we approach summer in Tranz's major market.
It is easy to become engrossed in Trainz and not think about the impact on the componentry producing it. Of course I could be beating a "dead horse" and awareness in the community may already be at a high level.
I was aware of the risk of chastisement for repeating a post topic but the positives were predominant.
It is easy to become engrossed in Trainz and not think about the impact on the componentry producing it. Of course I could be beating a "dead horse" and awareness in the community may already be at a high level.
I was aware of the risk of chastisement for repeating a post topic but the positives were predominant.
PhilChorusch01
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Using a temperature app to let it tell you how hot your CPU/GPU is certainly using more resources than what you think.
I'm not sure if you have ever had Windows 7, but there was a program that was pre-installed to monitor Clock Speed, CPU/GPU, Processor, ram and more
I discovered that this program was using a lot of resources, this would be the exact same as your so-called temperature app claiming that it's doing what it says it's doing but overall, it's using more resources on your computer than what you could imagine and not to mention uploading your private information onto serves to spy on you
I would recommend uninstalling the trash! And use Task Manager. You can still monitor everything despite it using resources too, but it's safer than some criminal so-called application created by idiots to spy on you and steal important information
I'm not sure if you have ever had Windows 7, but there was a program that was pre-installed to monitor Clock Speed, CPU/GPU, Processor, ram and more
I discovered that this program was using a lot of resources, this would be the exact same as your so-called temperature app claiming that it's doing what it says it's doing but overall, it's using more resources on your computer than what you could imagine and not to mention uploading your private information onto serves to spy on you
I would recommend uninstalling the trash! And use Task Manager. You can still monitor everything despite it using resources too, but it's safer than some criminal so-called application created by idiots to spy on you and steal important information
I've assembled a bunch of PCs for myself and my friends.
A normally assembled PC made of normal components in a normal case never overheats. All components are designed by the manufacturer for long-term operation under 100% load.
It is necessary to clean the interior of the case from dust in time.
A normally assembled PC made of normal components in a normal case never overheats. All components are designed by the manufacturer for long-term operation under 100% load.
It is necessary to clean the interior of the case from dust in time.
Absolutely, I built my last PC many years ago and it only failed last year. I used a 40 pound Cooler Master case and "normal" components. NEVER had any heat issues. I wonder if the trick is the proper application of the heat grease to the CPU and the CPU cooler. Unfortunately the BIOS chip failed and I retired for a prebuilt with the goodies as well as the flashing lights that seem to mesmerize the children. Turned them off. The case is for show and not close to Cooler Master (40 pounds alone).
I started with the Univac-I where vacuum tubes quickly forced you to think about heat dissipation. Occasionally leaving the doors open was needed. BUT, 800v on the plates of the 807s kept people at bay.
I started with the Univac-I where vacuum tubes quickly forced you to think about heat dissipation. Occasionally leaving the doors open was needed. BUT, 800v on the plates of the 807s kept people at bay.
This is a topic that needs to come up more often than not. Summer heat anywhere in the world is detrimental to computer hardware. I run my PC with the case side open. This keeps my blisteringly hot i9-12900K and RTX3080 cool within "safe working conditions". Operating the computer with the case side on, sent my video card right into thermal-throttling because the only air vent on the case was a segment with holes in it where the video card is located. The CPU is water cooled and that gets vented out the back so there were no problems with that.
I agree that running temperature and system monitoring tools can impact performance even though I do use HW Monitor Pro. I use that to periodically check that everything is running where it should and do so manually, however, I do use MSI Afterburner for my video card. I set the curve to an automatic but using my own temperature curve. By doing this, I can keep the video card temps down to about 65 C when using Trainz. This doesn't appear to impact any performance.
Keeping the interior of a PC clean is a given no matter what time of year it is. Using a rocket squeeze-bulb to blow the air out is a lot less expensive than canned air and I highly recommend those now. Remember to put something into the fans to prevent them from spinning too quickly when the air is blown through them to remove the dust. In addition to the Rocket to get the dirt out of the hard-to-reach places, I also use a Hippo vacuum. This is a special vacuum cleaner designed for cleaning computer equipment. Unlike a home vacuum, this one is grounded and doesn't produce any errant static electricity to zap the computer components. This vacuum can also work as a blower and I do that to blow out the dust from inside the case before using the Rocket to get to the crevices where the Hippo blowing the dust can't reach, and after blowing out the video card, I have noticed a substantial drop in temperatures.
There is one more thing that needs to be mentioned in addition to heat. During the warmer months, we also deal with lower power due to more people using air-conditioning. This lower power can affect the operation due to the components working harder and drawing more current from the power supply. To prevent this damage, in addition to that caused by spikes and brown outs, it's highly recommended if not mandatory to use a UPS. A UPS such as a Tripp-Lite, rated for the computer plus the display, will not only prevent spikes and burnouts from affecting the components but also will allow the computer to be shut down properly with time to save and shut down rather than suddenly turning off.
I agree that running temperature and system monitoring tools can impact performance even though I do use HW Monitor Pro. I use that to periodically check that everything is running where it should and do so manually, however, I do use MSI Afterburner for my video card. I set the curve to an automatic but using my own temperature curve. By doing this, I can keep the video card temps down to about 65 C when using Trainz. This doesn't appear to impact any performance.
Keeping the interior of a PC clean is a given no matter what time of year it is. Using a rocket squeeze-bulb to blow the air out is a lot less expensive than canned air and I highly recommend those now. Remember to put something into the fans to prevent them from spinning too quickly when the air is blown through them to remove the dust. In addition to the Rocket to get the dirt out of the hard-to-reach places, I also use a Hippo vacuum. This is a special vacuum cleaner designed for cleaning computer equipment. Unlike a home vacuum, this one is grounded and doesn't produce any errant static electricity to zap the computer components. This vacuum can also work as a blower and I do that to blow out the dust from inside the case before using the Rocket to get to the crevices where the Hippo blowing the dust can't reach, and after blowing out the video card, I have noticed a substantial drop in temperatures.
There is one more thing that needs to be mentioned in addition to heat. During the warmer months, we also deal with lower power due to more people using air-conditioning. This lower power can affect the operation due to the components working harder and drawing more current from the power supply. To prevent this damage, in addition to that caused by spikes and brown outs, it's highly recommended if not mandatory to use a UPS. A UPS such as a Tripp-Lite, rated for the computer plus the display, will not only prevent spikes and burnouts from affecting the components but also will allow the computer to be shut down properly with time to save and shut down rather than suddenly turning off.
The HWNFO has built-in information about almost all prodused hardware and it is constantly updated with the release of new hardware.
You can see the current temperatures of all components, the maximum temperatures, how many degrees before the trottling remain.
If the CPU or GPU is already in a trolling state, then this line is highlighted in red and the current frequency is shown to which the value has been reset.
If you scroll down the main window, then values are displayed there that you often didn't even know about.
And when you hover the cursor over a line, a detailed description of each value pops up, and a bunch more.
In the screenshot above, this is an additional sensor window. There are two more main windows with full information:
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davies_mike57
Train Simulator Hobbyist
One found out that if you clean the accumulated dust particles from the metal fins on the CPU and GPU heat sinks every so often also helps reduce temperature levels.
I wonder what is best cleaning method:
Digging in with a brush or blowing the dust out. Perhaps one of those cans of compressed air or the blower attachment on you home vacuum. Extreme care should be used since "bumping something could end up costing you a few thousand $$.
Perhaps using one of those brushes that come with electric shavers would work. Of course turn off the power.
Digging in with a brush or blowing the dust out. Perhaps one of those cans of compressed air or the blower attachment on you home vacuum. Extreme care should be used since "bumping something could end up costing you a few thousand $$.
Perhaps using one of those brushes that come with electric shavers would work. Of course turn off the power.
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johnwhelan
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Most office PCs normally run about 5% load on the CPU and to keep costs down manufacturers do not design their systems to run 100% all the time. Dell's reputation for reliability came from them designing the cases and layout to keep things cool. Even Dell's hit problems from time to time. Their SFF cases do not cool as well as their MT cases. They have the figures lying around somewhere about how much cooling each has. The bigger case helps as well.
Cheerio John
I forgot to mention that I only builded gaming computers and not office ones. Also upgraded the PC case for better cooling. (It is unclear why you should assemble for the office yourself, if it is easier to buy ready-made).
Relative to the load of 5%. Read in the manufacturer's specification what is circled in red:
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I use one of those glue brushes with a metal handle and pig hair. The metal handle prevents static build up and the stiff bristles do a good job removing the dust.
Rather than using expensive canned air, try a squeeze bulb. There's one called the Rocket. They cost around $10 to $20 and my brother got his from B&H Photo. They're also sold on Amazon too, probably for a lot less.
The pressure from the bulb can put out quite a bit of air, so it's recommended to stick something into the fans when blowing them clean to prevent damage to the bushings and bearings in the fans.
davies_mike57
Train Simulator Hobbyist
In a gaming computer it is an advantage if the hot air can escape from the PC case quickly.
Some gaming computers have an air vent grill at the top of the case (hot air rises), 3 fans fitted is better, one on the CPU, GPU, and on the side of PC case.
Do intend building a custom PC up to run TRS 2019 and TRS 2022 in full throttle mode but parts will cost more, however a ready built one would be cheaper.
Some gaming computers have an air vent grill at the top of the case (hot air rises), 3 fans fitted is better, one on the CPU, GPU, and on the side of PC case.
Do intend building a custom PC up to run TRS 2019 and TRS 2022 in full throttle mode but parts will cost more, however a ready built one would be cheaper.
I built my own PC, which has a bit case with 6 RGB LED case fans, 3 at the front, 2 on top, 1 at the back, it came with a remote control as well to change the colour of the fan lights and to boost the speed of the fans. When playing Trainz the graphics card heats up quite a bit (can feel it by touching the glass on the side of my case) so put the fans on full speed which drags more cooler air in and takes out the hotter air quicker than on slow speed, the temperature soon cools down.
Mark
Mark
I use compressed air in a can. However, you need to make sure that you keep any fans from spinning! The compressed air can and will spin the fans WAY too fast.
That's where a "rocket" comes in. The rocket compressed air cleaner is pretty inexpensive. My bro got his at B&H Photo for $20 and they go for far less on Amazon.
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The advantage of this is you buy this once instead of spending a lot for many compressed air cans.
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