When will we get this level of scenery for Trainz ???

[johnwhelan]

You need to understand that the EEP has a separate programming (coding) language that allows for the realistic functions and visual quality of their vehicles that is separated from their trains they have....It basically functions on its own complementing the train aspect where as right now we have a system that is more of a dependency on Trainz then being used on its own.........hence the invisible tracks for the cars in trainz vs. an actual road system as in EEP............if you look at advanced model railroads now, especially in Europe you will vehicles moving realistically on roadways and ship moving in water and planes flying and landing with new small micro motors...........this is the advancements in the MRR industry...they get cheaper each year and become more mainstreams such as what EEP is doing in the virtual world..........Tony mentioned they are trying to update TANE to reflect this.....

Different niches. To me TANE is something I can work with others to create content. That gives me a lot of control. Want an obscure Private Owner wagon not a problem. GWR broad gauge again not a problem. There isn't the same breadth of content in EEP as there is in Trainz certainly not free content.

Cheerio John

 

[Christopher824]

You need to understand that the EEP has a separate programming (coding) language that allows for the realistic functions and visual quality of their vehicles that is separated from their trains they have....It basically functions on its own complementing the train aspect where as right now we have a system that is more of a dependency on Trainz then being used on its own.........hence the invisible tracks for the cars in trainz vs. an actual road system as in EEP............if you look at advanced model railroads now, especially in Europe you will vehicles moving realistically on roadways and ship moving in water and planes flying and landing with new small micro motors...........this is the advancements in the MRR industry...they get cheaper each year and become more mainstreams such as what EEP is doing in the virtual world..........Tony mentioned they are trying to update TANE to reflect this.....

I think you totally missed the CAD/CAM thing, you can make anything you want and make it work any way you want. I just looked up this EEP thing and it's just a game, but if that's what you're after then it may be best for you. I want TOTAL control, that's why I use TANE.

I remember when you asked about grade crossings and I replied to you about the ATL system, and there you went and created an crossing that did exactly what you wanted with the assets available. There are a lot of different road systems in TANE and I'm sure you have not explored all of them, and remember, you can create your own road system to work exactly how you want it, by your specifications, no one else's, just yours, I don't think the EEP thing can match that in any degree... just me saying that... IMO

 

[Railhead001]

Different niches. To me TANE is something I can work with others to create content. That gives me a lot of control. Want an obscure Private Owner wagon not a problem. GWR broad gauge again not a problem. There isn't the same breadth of content in EEP as there is in Trainz certainly not free content.

Cheerio John

Really, did you ever bother to realize it is actually only targeting Germany and European countries instead of all the different countries such as this product markets to.................hmmmmm......and you talk about breadth of "Free" content,,,,exactly what percentage of that content is actually great ?????? Because I sure see more so/so then "Excellente" hec if that were the case my mods would be finished 20x faster since I would not have to track down that exceptional piece of content I am in need of...Quanity does not equal quality..............

And for the record to everybody reading this thread I never slammed Trainz.....I just asked a simple question....Again my work speaks for itself as do my posts on the build cycle and my youtube vids............I enjoy detailing !!!! Love it and that's why I make what I do.........never did I claim Trainz was a crappy program....I believe in it and think it better than most on the market if not the best................God forbid I make a suggestion to improve it even more...........At least Tony understands trends and has an open mind and that's the only person's opinion that really matters............

 

[Railhead001]

... Uh, anyway...

Not even. A decent loco costs 'round $200.00 -if not more! Model RR'ing is a rich person's hobby now!

And I remember when an Athearn locomotive cost under $45.00 dollars not the $100. to $200. it does now .......your statement about a rich person's hobby could not be more true.....................

 

[Railhead001]

I think you totally missed the CAD/CAM thing, you can make anything you want and make it work any way you want. I just looked up this EEP thing and it's just a game, but if that's what you're after then it may be best for you. I want TOTAL control, that's why I use TANE.

I remember when you asked about grade crossings and I replied to you about the ATL system, and there you went and created an crossing that did exactly what you wanted with the assets available. There are a lot of different road systems in TANE and I'm sure you have not explored all of them, and remember, you can create your own road system to work exactly how you want it, by your specifications, no one else's, just yours, I don't think the EEP thing can match that in any degree... just me saying that... IMO

I think you missed my point, yes you can create roads in Tane but you can't create a networked system with vehicle behaving as they do in EEP, Tony has confirmed this already...Again EEP has its own independent road/vehicle system which Tane does not......ATLS is just crossings and other signals but does not have the interactivity with vehicles as EEP does.....TANE has technological limitations, moving cars were in afterthought for it while cars in EEP were designed with it in mind. Don't get me wrong, Tane offers some excellent looking roads (Yarn )and the ATLS system is great but it was an afterthought vs. EEP's road and vehicle system which shows the complex interactions as seen in the vids I have here clearly show....

 

[Railhead001]

+1 man, i'm sick of it already. Write a better program or get over to your holy EEP where you pay $60 for every damn version, every year thats exactly the same (Greetings from TS2017 lol), nearly no freeware content exists and every car or bicycle that is on the road and looks so damn good costs a minimum of 2.50 bucks. Did i mention every tree, sky, plant and garden fence costs up to 7.50/piece too?

Update: https://eep-kataloge.de/cgi-bin/baseportal.pl?htx=/Freemodelle Excuse me, Flusi, but does this site not show over 400 pages of "FREE" content......I might be imagining it .............

 

[flusi737]

Awww, 400? How cute is that :hehe:
So what are you trying to compare here? Trainz to an overpriced model railroad simulator? The price of little Model RR Layouts to the price of ones in Trainz where you dont just have 5x1km size? EEP Train models to JR's models which have actual working cabs, doors, windows etc? Not to mention JR is NOT charging for their grass - something Trend actually does. Or you want to compare the 400 free models to the size of the DLS and the incredible amount of other Sites with freeware stuff?
Also i'm not saying you shouldnt pay for it at all if its worth the quality.
And don't start it with "excuse me", you already called me "dumb" and "silly' because i dont agree to your opinion, we can all see what nice kind of person you are here

Felix

Btw i actually work for my money - how about you? Just interested...

Edit2: I'll probably not write here again too, how do they say? "Don't feed the Troll"

Edit3: Sorry, above is obsolete, i just had to

 

[Railhead001]

Awww, 400? How cute is that :hehe:
So what are you trying to compare here? Trainz to an overpriced model railroad simulator? The price of little Model RR Layouts to the price of ones in Trainz where you dont just have 5x1km size? EEP Train models to JR's models which have actual working cabs, doors, windows etc? Not to mention JR is NOT charging for their grass - something Trend actually does. Or you want to compare the 400 free models to the size of the DLS and the incredible amount of other Sites with freeware stuff?
Also i'm not saying you shouldnt pay for it at all if its worth the quality.
And don't start it with "excuse me", you already called me "dumb" and "silly' because i dont agree to your opinion, we can all see what nice kind of person you are here

Felix

[Unneeded comments and personal attacks removed] ...check out the specs for EEP 14 [Unneeded comments and personal attacks removed] ...1st you said "nearly no freeware" and I gave 1 link with over 400+ pages of freeware.(hmmm).....2nd you complain about price......I then prove the same with JR.....the layouts in EEP come in basic or complete which means thousands of items or less included in the layout, so you do not need to buy any additional items if it is complete and 3. EEP is not only a MRR sim but people have made your typical "route" design as well... [Unneeded comments and personal attacks removed]

I just posted a question and never slammed Trainz or whined about its pricing. [Unneeded personal attacks removed]
And to make things even easier here is the EEP 14 Expert description:

This includes your EEP 14 expert 7 ready-to-operate systems, 3,500 models
Top Model: SBB CE 6/8 II Swiss crocodile
Detailed German manual (pdf)
Original Deutsche Bahn signal book (PDF)
Including EEP system connector

The innovations in EEP 14 expert Top Model: SBB SBB CE 6/8 II Swiss crocodile
Nvidia PhysX: New physics engine
SSAO technique for more realistic shadow throws
New characters with individual animations
New Loading available Unimog
New models: e.g. stones, logs, etc. as load
New signals with extended range of functions
New Einspuriges Road System
New Road Editor
Advanced Virtual Depot functions
New GBS elements
Multiple selection in 3d Editor
Many new Lua functions
Sound models for your own sounds
Second Plan window display
Formatted Tipptexte
Easier and faster installation

The main feature of EEP 14 expert EEP 14 brings a lot of new features. Some of the new features are clearly summarized here:

PC-Train simulation with all traffic routes
Extremely realistic down to the smallest detail
Convenient control also via GamePad
Multiple selection in 3d Editor
Scriptsteuerung per lua possible
Import and editable Timetables
Consoles, virtual depots, fully automatic intersections, etc.
Life-oriented animations and vehicle physics
Dynamic weather, day/night automatic, Sky effects
Professional camera system with mobile camera
Comfortable 3d-editors for plant construction, roads, LUA, GBS etc.
Operating and animated guide stands
Animated water and animated floating objects
Step-by-step instructions as video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r28kXBOx_6w

 

[JCitron]

I would recommend stopping the personal attacks. They are uncalled for in the forums here, and sadly a good forum thread here will end up being locked due to such action and even worse people will receive bans.

Everyone is allowed to express their opinions without being attacked. In other words agree to disagree.

 

[nicky9499]

Railhead001: I think this thread having come thus far all that's been demonstrated is you find Trainz very unsatisfactory and everyone else otherwise. May I kindly suggest moving on to some other sim that does fulfill these expectations such as the one you keep bringing up..EPP or whatever...so that this unnecessary arguing can come to an end.

 

[Railhead001]

Railhead001: I think this thread having come thus far all that's been demonstrated is you find Trainz very unsatisfactory and everyone else otherwise. May I kindly suggest moving on to some other sim that does fulfill these expectations such as the one you keep bringing up..EPP or whatever...so that this unnecessary arguing can come to an end.

And here we go again around and around.....where the hec do I say Trainz is UNSATISFACTORY ????? Please reference a single line where I state that I dislike it whereas most posters here attack EEP ???? Another hypocrite among us ???? Guess you haven't seen my work with TRAINZ ........Brazemore Yard mod version, Pioneer Creek, Needles Sub.........etc etc etc.................No its just ignorant people who post without thinking and expect people who do think and support what they say to sit back and take their "poo" without saying anything.....no..you don't like what you see then leave..did u start this thread ??? No you didn't.................if you understand English and read this from the beginning you know my stance and what I have contributed, funny I did a search on the DLS nicky9499 doesn't come up ? What have you done with this program ? All high and mighty.....I have never seen so many ignorant people in one place,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or hypocrites for that matter.

I can find several lines where I do praise Trainz which is why I reference people like you as having their heads in the sand................again what have you contributed to this program ?????

You better believe I will defend my words and challenge the ignorant and hypocritical people who post here.................Advice you don't like this post then leave and don't read it, nobody is forcing you and I grow tired of pointing out the ignorant actions of others along with being hypocritical.

 

[Railhead001]

Another favorite of mine, turning the original Brazemore Yard Layout into a "City" version ......

 

[Railhead001]

 

[flusi737]

you know my stance and what I have contributed, funny I did a search on the DLS nicky9499 doesn't come up ? What have you done with this program ? All high and mighty.....I have never seen so many ignorant people in one place,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or hypocrites for that matter.

Yes, you are the god of Trainz, hail to you for everything you did for us, for all the content you created, shared and beeing such a nice person in this community as we can all see here blah blah blah....
Speaking about ignorant people, so you now criticize Nicky for never doing anything in Trainz or for the Community ? LOL
Especially coming from a Person that joined Jan '17.

But calling me dumb and others hypocrites Hahahaha

By the way, punctuation marks don't live in herds ^^

challenge the ignorant and hypocritical people who post here

Same here. If you dont like people's opinions on the stuff your mind produces for whatever reason, don't post it in a forum.

 

[Railhead001]

They say actions speak louder than words..............The above videos should Disprove any belief that I am "Not Satisfied" with Trainz/TMR17 . The hours I spent rebuilding and detailing these layouts is testament to how much I enjoy this game...............and if you think for one moment I will stand for unsubstantiated claims of what I said, whether it's someone's opinion or not, you are sadly mistaken............I take great pride in my work and dedication to making this game shine and submit the above videos as my answer to those who doubt me otherwise....

 

[Railhead001]

Yes, you are the god of Trainz, hail to you for everything you did for us, for all the content you created, shared and beeing such a nice person in this community as we can all see here blah blah blah....
Speaking about ignorant people, so you now criticize Nicky for never doing anything in Trainz or for the Community ? LOL
Especially coming from a Person that joined Jan '17.

But calling me dumb and others hypocrites Hahahaha

By the way, punctuation marks don't live in herds ^^



Same here. If you dont like people's opinions on the stuff your mind produces for whatever reason, don't post it in a forum.

Never said I was God of trainz nor that I am unsatisfied either...........and what does the date joined matter ?????????? I have the original Trainz from around 1999.. [Unneeded comment removed]

But I actually should thank you for mentioning my "joined date" amazing how much can be created in such a short amount of time if you put your mind to it........ oh and referencing your comment on my comment on nicky9499 since you brought it up, I find it amusing that the person who states I am "unsatisfied " has created what ???? while me the supposedly "unsatisfied" person has created 3 modded versions of the Brazemore Yard Layout, 1 modded version of the Needles Sub Div , and 2 modded versions of the Pioneer & Freedom layout......along with some tutorials and forums on modifying the previously mentioned layouts..................oh and all that in such a short amount of time as you so diligently pointed out for us flusi737. Cheers

 

[trainman7616]

funny I did a search on the DLS nicky9499 doesn't come up ? What have you done with this program ?

http://ccrx.us/.......

 

[oknotsen]

I think what needed to be said has been said (and I hope I cleaned up most of what did not need to be said).

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