Warning to users downloading content by Bort85 - Please Read

[RRSignal]

It's actually not that hard to tell - run an MD5 hash on any meshes or textures you suspect. It's like a digital fingerprint. If they match your/someone elses meshes or textures, it's a copy.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/841290

This utility supports SHA-1, which is even better.

 

[clam1952]

bort85 has cloned a couple of vulcans Car Splines, which seem to have been pulled in for something I downloaded recently. Is Ian still active? Paulzmays item's appear to have reappeared as an update, pretty sure Paul reported him some months back, is there any point in even reporting this guy, if nothing is done about it?

 

[shaneturner12]

I feel there is still a point for reporting both of the users mentioned (Bort85 and trainz666) as what they are doing is effectively theft of another users items then posting them as their own.

I will keep on to N3V if that's what it takes.

Shane

 

[OlegKhim]

Trainz666 does have pofig trees uploaded... I am checking other trees from him to see if he has also uploaded possibly JVC or dmdrakes trees...

All repainting, which is poured on the DLS trainz666 (denlog) only with permission of the authors and Jan including no reason for concern about trainz666 (denlog)

They haven't cloned the route by any chance for Multiplayer? which seem to becoming an obsession from TrainzUP.

It's also obvious from some of the thumbnails which appear to be copies of the texture files, that this is a rush bodge job just to get the stuff online for Multiplayer.

Perhaps Multiplayer should be restricted to builtin assets only, not DLS ones? That would probably stop the problem dead in it's tracks.

TrainzUP has nothing to do with it. (Bort85)

I feel there is still a point for reporting both of the users mentioned (Bort85 and trainz666) as what they are doing is effectively theft of another users items then posting them as their own.

Assets Developer denlog (trainz666) ts12 entered the game and now updated, no panic against him.

Bort85 - an impostor, and to us has nothing to do

 

[nathanmallard]

2 more assets uploaded...almost downloaded one of them. Why won't N3V take action against this guy...this is the biggest content theft ever, and it is still being uploaded! Shocking.

 

[clam1952]

All repainting, which is poured on the DLS trainz666 (denlog) only with permission of the authors and Jan including no reason for concern about trainz666 (denlog)



TrainzUP has nothing to do with it. (Bort85)


Assets Developer denlog (trainz666) ts12 entered the game and now updated, no panic against him.

Bort85 - an impostor, and to us has nothing to do

If I read you correct then bort85 has been altering TrainzUP stuff as well as a lot of other Russian creators assets? That explains the TrainzUP logo on some of his items, yet more cloned items?

 

[OlegKhim]

I did not see that it loads. Use of the logo is not legal, I repeat, I do not know him (Bort85)

trainz666 (denlog) - legitimate developer

 

[shaneturner12]

Thankyou for the info about trainz666 - I will no longer need to worry about him. As for Bort85, N3V need to take action against said user.

Shane

 

[Urman_Diesel]

for Bort85, N3V need to take action against said user.

Remove illegal content only.

 

[William0d0]

Well, this is great.

I'm using his Asphalt1, which after a little investigating realize it looks exactly like the builtin Asphalt1.

Guess I need to just delete everything of his from my Trainz.

 

[clam1952]

The problem is going to be when route builders have used his versions as dependencies, what bort85 is doing by using identical clones, albeit updated to higher build versions, is create future confusion and yet more missing dependency queries when or if the dodgy items eventually get removed, especially if they don't get removed quickly. Not every route builder uses these forums, many won't be aware there is any problem.

 

[nexusdj]

Considering this is definitely not his first infraction then surely it's about time Auran /NV3 ban him for a month or two or at least put his downloads on moderation so that they have to be checked individually and let him know that the next reported breach will result in a ban for a month or more.
How many people have been banned on this forum for a few months for swearing or flaming other users , Surely this is a lot worse than that ??

 

[William0d0]

The problem is going to be when route builders have used his versions as dependencies, what bort85 is doing by using identical clones, albeit updated to higher build versions, is create future confusion and yet more missing dependency queries when or if the dodgy items eventually get removed, especially if they don't get removed quickly. Not every route builder uses these forums, many won't be aware there is any problem.

My route is already moving along slow enough without having to redo stuff. I say ban all future uploads from him.

 

[nathanmallard]

Well, the DLS is down at the moment, perhaps they are removing the illegal clones?

 

[SharkNose]

Somewhat related...

Why does my Content Manager v3.6 show nothing by author Bort85, but the Trainz Download Station shows 767 assets of his?

Just curious...

 

[JCitron]

Somewhat related...

Why does my Content Manager v3.6 show nothing by author Bort85, but the Trainz Download Station shows 767 assets of his?

Just curious...

This is a database synchronization issue. This happens on occasion when the database on the DLS gets ahead of the local assets.tdx file on your hard drive. Eventually CM will "connect" and download items.

John

 

[kenneth18278]

Well, the DLS is down at the moment, perhaps they are removing the illegal clones?

Just checked today's DLs in CMP and Bort85 has 6 or 7 bogeys included. I don't know if they're illegal or not, I didn't really look as they're not my thing, and only just saw this thread.

Ken

 

[GeorgeCW]

I'd say from N3v's response do they even care?

 

[sniper297]

Probably not, that's why they use an automated bot with no human supervision.
Looking over some of the latest, if TrainzUP is the targeted victim, somebody named Erendir is doing the same thing.

 

[kd7eirjim]

Three pages in less than one day on this thread, and no response from N3V - I say that equals complicity in what Bort85 is doing. Nice demonstration of ethical behavior N3V.