Video/monitor/ram/upgrade

[Dermmy]

I went from a P4 3.6 and an AGP 7800 card to a Duo Core 3.0 (6850) and an 8800 640 GTS and noticed huge gains all around.

Ed

Ed if you haven't E-bay-ed it away, I'd love to hear what you lose in Trainz if you put the 7800 card back in with the 6850 processor - I suspect not a lot...

@ John - tried numerous drivers. Malware possible but unlikely, I update anti-virus at least twice a day and run an anti-virus system check plus Adaware and SpyBot weekly. AFAIK the system is clean...

Andy

 

[johnwhelan]

@ John - tried numerous drivers. Malware possible but unlikely, I update anti-virus at least twice a day and run an anti-virus system check plus Adaware and SpyBot weekly. AFAIK the system is clean...

Andy

Run one of the benchmarks and let's see what you get. If its the same as a machine with an 8800 card then you have a magic machine and Trainz prefers your card if not then there is something different between your system and the other one.

Thanks John

 

[Euphod]

Ed if you haven't E-bay-ed it away, I'd love to hear what you lose in Trainz if you put the 7800 card back in with the 6850 processor - I suspect not a lot...Andy

Sorry bud, no can do. The old board won't support the 6850, and the new board has no agp for the 7800.
Ed

 

[SuperFudd]

DaveW,
Thanks for the tip on Nvidia nTune. I tried it. I LIKE it.:udrool: :mop:

 

[Dermmy]

... If you could be kind enough to run one of the benchmarks that would be very useful. They exist for both TC and TRS2006.

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=14993

Thanks John

John - happy to run a benchmark test, but can only find reference to TC, nothing that relates to 06. what am I missing??

Andy

 

[johnwhelan]

John - happy to run a benchmark test, but can only find reference to TC, nothing that relates to 06. what am I missing??

Andy

The TRS2006 one, sorry I should have put this link in.

http://forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=17294&highlight=benchmark

Then we may need to corrolate one to the other but I can do that on my machine sometime.

Cheerio John

 

[Dermmy]

The plot thickens!!!

Ran bmark.bat from the 06 root directory as suggested.

First run forgot to reset sliders, also left draw distance TrainzTuner-ed out to 2km - :
Averaged 36.627092fps over 301.880371sec

Second run with Auran defaults:
Averaged 65.302143fps over 297.386871sec

Comparing with rwebers results in the other thread, my first run is slightly worse (that would be the draw distance) but my default run is nearly 10% faster, although from sheer habit I Ctrl-H'd to get rid of the turnout arrows, which would have helped a bit.

Anyway rweber's system is not all that different to mine, except he has an 8800GTS 320mb.

Which brings me back to my proposition that perhaps the graphics bottleneck is not the gpu card, but the amount of data the graphics engine can throw at the card....

Andy

 

[SuperFudd]

More about Nvidia nTune and I.

I tried the quick tune first and it increased my fsb from 100 to 123MHz and my AGP from 66 to 71MHz, without any resets. This worked fine so I tried it again. Great gobs of resets as it tried to set the FSB to about 140MHz. Thank heavens for system restore. I tried again with the 3 hour tune up. After two resets, it settled on 120 and 77 MHz.
I then decided it would be better to use what I learned to adjust these settings in BIOS. Afterr another system restore, I set it to 133 and 71. This worked great for awhile. Perhaps a 12% FPS increase but after awhile I started getting hesitations like maybe something was overheating. I recently replaced my old CPU fan and heat sink with a much better one and it was running cooler than it ever did with the old one so that wasn't it. I lowered the AGP bus back to it's original 66MHz. Perhaps the GPU temp, wich I cannot monitor, was overheating. All is now well. I may still have a 12% FPS increase.

 

[johnwhelan]

The plot thickens!!!

Ran bmark.bat from the 06 root directory as suggested.

First run forgot to reset sliders, also left draw distance TrainzTuner-ed out to 2km - :
Averaged 36.627092fps over 301.880371sec

Second run with Auran defaults:
Averaged 65.302143fps over 297.386871sec

Comparing with rwebers results in the other thread, my first run is slightly worse (that would be the draw distance) but my default run is nearly 10% faster, although from sheer habit I Ctrl-H'd to get rid of the turnout arrows, which would have helped a bit.

Anyway rweber's system is not all that different to mine, except he has an 8800GTS 320mb.

Which brings me back to my proposition that perhaps the graphics bottleneck is not the gpu card, but the amount of data the graphics engine can throw at the card....

Andy

Could be so what we need now is two people with different graphics cards but the same fast cpu to try the benchmark. Be interesting to see a dual and a quad as well.

Any takers?

Cheerio John