UK themed iportal group

danny5 and ctkrogen, i have been on, my iportal id for 06 is dallas1. fortworth1, sanantonio1, oklahoma city1, and marshall1


for 2010, i have them set the same, but everytime i log on it alway says im offline???? i have registered my 2010 and it still does not show up? am i doing somehting wrong?
 
....i have registered my 2010 and it still does not show up? am i doing somehting wrong?....

I would suggest you check the Auran website to verify your TS2010 registration. If that looks OK then then only people that can help you are the Auran helpdesk, submit a ticket and wait...

All - please let's keep this thread on topic - it's about a UK themed iportal group, not a general iportal helpline or discussion thread :) ! Thanks.

Chris
 
danny5 and ctkrogen, i have been on, my iportal id for 06 is dallas1. fortworth1, sanantonio1, oklahoma city1, and marshall1


for 2010, i have them set the same, but everytime i log on it alway says im offline???? i have registered my 2010 and it still does not show up? am i doing somehting wrong?


send a e-mail to teh help desk,, i sen you a message last night 10/25/2011
and you went off line,,,,,,,
 
Peter,

The was no passenger station at Boscarne junction until 1964 when Boscarne Exchange platform opened, The B&WR Boscarne junction station was later built on the site of the exchange platform.

Chris

It seems that either GWR or SR had a station at Boscarne in 1930.

Look at the (supposedly) 1930 GWR timetable for Bodmin Road to Wadebriidge towards the bottom of

http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/40275-gwr-operations-from-bodmin-general/

It clearly shows a stop at Boscarne Junction. So does anyone know where exactly? It was probably long gone when the exchange platform was built in the 1960s. In fact, if it was a GWR station it would have been on the other side of the tracks. It may have been in between the two inner lines. I seem to remember seeing some traces of tracks that showed an odd gap in the middle.

This would leave passenger trains SR/GWR or eastbound/westbound trains on the two sides of the platform and the respective goods shunting loops outside that. It makes sense, but was it so?

Peter.
 
....It clearly shows a stop at Boscarne Junction.....

No stops for passenger trains, only passing times. There a few freight trains showing to RR (Run Round) - possibly off the Wenford branch.

Peter, if you wish to continue this discussion (and any other matters GW) then it would be best to start a thread in the prototype forums.

Cheers

Chris
 
OK, I've setup and tested iPortals in TS12, firstly within a single test route of my own and then between two test routes of my own.

The next stage is to test it over the Internet. I recognise the issue of compatibility and I do not have all TS2010 rolling stock, probably not even all the UK locos. I'm primarily interested in GWR (& SR/LMS) steam (grouping) era c. 1938 (so those are what I tend to have DLd or use), but I seem to remember TS2010, didn't have much in that category, so have downloaded and fixed lots of earlier locos and rolling stock (which probably doesn't help much as far as iPortaling is concerned.

Do the KUIDs (including the KUID version) have to match perfectly on the two sides? Do the KUIDs on both sides need to match Auran's DLS too? Could Add-ons (like DUCHESS and its coaches) be used if both sides have them? Is it primarily the loco (and possible tender) that must match at the two ends? If the loco/tender match(es), but one orf two wagons or coaches don't match, does the train just come through without those or does the train transfer fail completely?

I have downloaded skipper1945's GWR Kings (v2.8 or Trainz Classics 3) and andi06's GWR Collett coaches (v2.9 TS2009 Original) as I imagine many of us have. They should work too, I suppose.

Do we communicate on the chat to organise things? with or without iPortal IDs, rolling stock KUIDs or names etc?

A last couple of things:

Firstly, is there any way to change the destination userID and iPortalID while in driver (I don't see it, but ...) or do you need to keep going back to edit in surveyor (or have an iPortal OUT per person/iPortal)?

The User ID (in the iPortal config.) is actually the person's username, right? Not the numerical user ID, as one would expect.

So, I should be:

User: peterwise
Iportal ID: iPortal PW-A In

Send me something! (I have Duchess and the S&C stock, if that helps)

Peter.
 
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...OK, I've setup and tested iPortals in TS12, firstly within a single test route of my own and then between two test routes of my own....The next stage is to test it over the Internet....

Peter,

Have you had any luck with iportalling in TS12? - a previous contributor to this thread said it was not possible but I don't have TS12 to check.

Chris
 
Peter,

....Do the KUIDs (including the KUID version) have to match perfectly on the two sides?...

KUIDs yes, versions, probably not.

....Do the KUIDs on both sides need to match Auran's DLS too?...

So long as all people involved have the same assets then it does not really matter where they come from. It's just simpler, to start with, to use only DLS assets.

....Could Add-ons (like DUCHESS and its coaches) be used if both sides have them?...

Yes.

....Is it primarily the loco (and possible tender) that must match at the two ends?...

To the best of my knowledge the whole consist must match.

....Do we communicate on the chat to organise things? ...

Chat works for last minute changes but it would be far better to organise basic things via the forums, PMs or email first.

....is there any way to change the destination userID and iPortalID while in driver (I don't see it, but ...) or do you need to keep going back to edit in surveyor (or have an iPortal OUT per person/iPortal)?...

The nearest I know of for this is the Panel Selector Rule,<kuid2:30671:60010:3> it does some of what you would like.

Chris
 
...did you install the iportals in 12,, they are not build in,,, 12,,, i can't find them in 12.....

Iportals were built in to TS2009/10 so if you have merged the 2010 .ja files with TS12 they should be there, also I thought that TS2009/10 content (except routes) was being made available on the DLS for TS12 owners.

The real question is "do iportals work in TS12?" - I hope so - PeterWise should be able to answer this from practical experience.
 
Peter,

Have you had any luck with iportalling in TS12? - a previous contributor to this thread said it was not possible but I don't have TS12 to check.

Chris

Yes, I have definitely determined that iPortalling does NOT work in TS12 (not on my Windows 7 64-bit system anyway). The problem appears to be that TS12 is not accepting the messages about incoming consists (maybe due to security considerations).

Everything else works: no asset errors, no asset warnings, no script errors (unless you use rolling stock with script errors of course - which I didn't for the test) and consists are consumed OK.

I set up a route and session in TS2010 with a variety of built-in AND downloaded locos and rolling stock, such that they exit ("call at", but NavTo works as well) an iPortal sending OVER THE INTERNET to an incoming one on the same route (polling every minute). In all cases I get a message back within a few seconds of the train being consumed that a train is waiting at the incoming iPortal and within a minute later it appears.

As my session is automated, I have the iportals configured to be "Auto" rather than "Manual". Consist schedules are lost, but the train obeys signals (which I have set up on the route) and stops when a junction (or another train) is in front of it, so it's all quite handleable as long as you have an ordinary portal at the other end to consume the trains. I have one to return (some) trains too.

As I said it all works fine in TS2010. I thought maybe I had earlier had a minor configuration difference in my TS12 iPortal test, so went to all the bother of porting the TS2010 route and session over. [I had to change the KUID numbers (open-for-edit version to open-for-edit version) to suit as my TS2010 was recently re-installed after TS12 and so uses lower KUID numbers. (Is there any way to change the KUID base number in TS2010 or TS12, so you can transfer your own CDPs easily?]. Anyway, the transfered route and session work absolutely as per the TS2010 version in TS12 with the exceptions that no message comes back that a consist is waiting in the incoming portal and, of course, no consist does come back.

I did try changing the portal IDs to contain no embedded spaces, using '-' instead, but did not try reducing them to using underscores '_', a small number of characters or just (say three digits). Maybe another day.

I'd say there is definitely something different about the TS12 code as compared to the TS2010 code at work here. Maybe it is just not polling Auran's server. Another possibility is that TS12 is using a different protocol for polling that I don't have on my Windows-7 64-bit. I'm sure we would all really like to hear from anyone that CAN use iPolling on TS12, because we may be able to narrow down the cause for the Auran programmers.

By the way, another strange but invisible difference is that filenames in .txt files (definitely 'texture.txt' files) must not have trailing spaces in TS12 (which you don't see on Notepad or many other editors). One loco I was using in my TS2010 to TS12 test route/session (Gresley A3 BR Green Loco - <kuid2:44090:1027:8> - v2.4) had no errors on TS2010 and gave that weird binary conversion error in TS12 (I've seen this many times before, as I'm sure we all have, so here's at least one cause to look for ...). In this case, it was caused by some spaces after a filename (after either "Primary=" or "Alpha=") in 'gresley_a3_br_green_art_512.texture.txt'
e.g. "Gresley_A3_BR_Green_art_512.tga " instead of "Gresley_A3_BR_Green_art_512.tga".

So when there's no cause to be seen, look for the invisible!

'Hope this all helps some people

Peter.

PS: I'm new to using the online chat in Trainz. How do you message an individual username in chat, like you (itareus) did a couple of nights ago?

I'll be on (and off again sometimes as my GPU stops talking to Trainz from time to time) in TS2010 with a variety of GWR trains (starting with a single Gresley and tender as a base test) to send to whoever wants. So, let me know your portal ID (in chat) and make sure your route can handle this many (5 or 6?) trains (delete 'em, store 'em or turn 'em - your choice), but if you don't have them on your Trainz , you won't see them.

I'd be interested to know, though if you see messages for trains at the incoming portal, but not the trains themselves (probably because you don't have some or all of the consist - that's something else to narrow down.

All the best,

Peter.

STOP PRESS
peterwise
iPortal ID: 001 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Note simpler iPortal ID <<<<<<<

Also: you will need either room to quickly and safely store up to a dozen trains or be able to have them quickly consumed in a ordinary portal at the other end of your test route.
You can choose (by telling me over chat - connect to chat channel 'iportal') either 5 (mainly) GWR (all steam) trains or 7 BR (mainly steam) trains (or one then the other if you really want).
I will need your (input) iPortal ID only as your username will be as on chat.
From 20:00 GMT tonight (Monday 31-Oct-11 in Europe) - see you there!
 
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OK, I've setup and tested iPortals in TS12, firstly within a single test route of my own and then between two test routes of my own.
aaa did you install the iportals in 12,, they are not build in,,, 12,,, i can't find them in 12.....

Sorry, my intent was not clear. I meant I had tested them "only within this computer" or whatever the term was, NOT over the Internet (even to myself) - see new info. just posted.

Peter.
 
It's 20:00 GMT and, as promised, I am on and off the 'iportal' channel on the Trainz chat.

Is nobody [apart from Danny (danny5)] up for a serving of trains either GWR or BR? Danny received the all yesterday and I'm really looking for someone that like GWR and BR steam tonight.

The simplest route is one that just takes trains in your (input) iPortal (you need to give me that iPortal ID in chat) and sends them to on an ordinary portal to be consumed. If you has some trains (ior just locos) to send me at the same time (queued up or whatever, send them to my iPortal from a different (outgoing) iPortal of yours - we don't want any confusion, do we?

You can choose either 5 (mainly) GWR (all steam) trains or 7 BR (mainly steam) trains (or one then the other if you really want).

Come join in the fun!

peterwise
iPortal ID: 001 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Note simpler iPortal ID <<<<<<<
 
It's 20:00 GMT and, as promised, I am on and off the 'iportal' channel on the Trainz chat.


i will iportal with you,, it just that, i had problems with my lay out,,,, now it all fixed,,i take in loggs, sawdusk, diesel fuel, coal, cattle,scrap metal. passangers. oil, lumber, built in containers, any comtaniers


i produce, coal.disel fuel, built in gen goods,passnagers, coils 2x2, coil 1.5????, cattle,oil.lumber,contaniers.



i think that all not sure
 
Well i tested iportals today and found they can be used to iportal from one route to another route via within your computer. But can't get no body to test this out with me. Now when i open my iportal and set them to via internet i get the off line(red box) not green so i still think they don't work over the internet.
 
Well i tested iportals today and found they can be used to iportal from one route to another route via within your computer. But can't get no body to test this out with me. Now when i open my iportal and set them to via internet i get the off line(red box) not green so i still think they don't work over the internet.

You obviously mean in TS12, right?

This is the same I get in TS12: within the computer (to same of different route) - no problem. Via the Internet: nothing - no message (in the message window) that anything is arriving, no train (built-in or not) - nothing comes back.

The protocol is turn off (or there is a code error in TS12).

I'll raise a ticket with Auran on it, but obviously nothing can happen until at least the next patch.

Peter.
 
What's up with the clock on Auran's forums server - I've just read something I don't write for 10 minutes!

Peter.
 
Peter and Danny,

Thanks for the feedback about TS12 and iportals. I'm getting a little bit frustrated about this - we really need to know if this is a bug in TS12 or a deliberate switching off of iportals to support/enable Multiplayer. The only person likely to give us a definative answer on this is Chris Bergmann (Windwalkr), hopefully Peters ticket to the helpdesk will get a response.

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...Is there any way to change the KUID base number in TS2010 or TS12...!

Peter

No easy way as far as I'm aware, CM seems to use the lowest available number - even using "spare" KUIDs from deleted items. You can always manually edit the config.txt file but I don't regard this as a practical solution in the long term.

Hopefully I will catch you through the week for an iportal session.

Cheers

Chris
 
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