UK Screenshots (Hi Res Version)

[escafeld]

Hmm.. Arlington Grange.........is this a new unannounced loco from the UKBL stable? I knew there was a castle under construction.........:mop:

Will compliment the current King & Manor locos.

Looking forward to future UKBL releases.

Gam

6800 was Llanfair Grange

 

[LieLestoSbrat]

nah TL has done it himself, because apparently the only difference between a Grange and a Manor is weight, the Grange is a heavier locomotive therefore holds a higher tractive effort so TL has been fairly clever in doing a quick renumbring and renaming, though I will say the Letters and cabside number are a little too yellow and need toning down what I would suggest doing is open the origanal file and use the pippet tool to select the colour from the origanal Number plate and nameplate.

Actually the Grange and Manor class locos are very different. The Grange class of locos is a derivative of the Hall class locomotives with a smaller driving wheel diameter, 5'8" for the Grange and 6' for the Hall. Their are other detail differences between the Hall and Grange class locos. When calculating tractive effort for a steam locomotive weight has nothing to do with it. The values required used for calculating tractive effort are boiler pressure, piston diameter, piston stroke, wheel diameter and a constant. The constant changes between country's and builders, Mainline UK railways used a constant of 0.85, Industrial railways usually went for 0.6. The constant represents losses in pressure and friction.

Rob

 

[TLBlade]

Actually the Grange and Manor class locos are very different. The Grange class of locos is a derivative of the Hall class locomotives with a smaller driving wheel diameter, 5'8" for the Grange and 6' for the Hall. Their are other detail differences between the Hall and Grange class locos. When calculating tractive effort for a steam locomotive weight has nothing to do with it. The values required used for calculating tractive effort are boiler pressure, piston diameter, piston stroke, wheel diameter and a constant. The constant changes between country's and builders, Mainline UK railways used a constant of 0.85, Industrial railways usually went for 0.6. The constant represents losses in pressure and friction.

Rob

The Manor and the Grange where built along the same designs. The Designs both appeared from the modification of a 43XX and the first grange appeared in 1936 followed by the Manor in 1938. The Grange was different that it had a large boiler and had a greater weight But the Frames and wheels where the same as the Manors because the originated from the 43XX. It was mid way between the Hall and The Manor. But the Grange is more like the Manor then the Hall.

@escafeld Llanfair Grange was No 6877. I have the works picture of the first grange and the name is Arlington Grange

But None of that Matters for the time unless anyone is planning to make a Grange this will do for me.

 

[pellet]

just to confirm ,looking in a 1948-50 spotter book

6800 was Arlington
6877 was Llanfair


anyway, R3, I always love to see your shots, keep 'em coming!!

 

[escafeld]

My apologies, someone got it wrong here.

http://www.newrailwaymodellers.co.uk/hornby-2006/steam-2006.htm

 

[TLBlade]

Here are two more shots from me.

6800 Arlington Grange

6849 Walton Grange

 

[lewisner]

A Deltic heads south past Ford Works , between Pallion and Hylton..

 

[escafeld]

Fictional station.

 

[LMS_MAN]

Re the Granges compared to Manors

But the Frames and wheels where the same as the Manors because the originated from the 43XX.

The Grange frames are 15 inches longer between the rear driver centre & cab rear compared to the Manor to accomodate the larger firebox & boiler.Afaik only the valve gear & wheels from the 43XX were reused on the Manors & Granges, the frames were new.

 

[lewisner]

As a break from this fascinating discussion of the minutae of Granges , heres an actual screenshot of Evening Star passing Ford Works signalbox..

 

[lewisner]

And a short while later passing Hylton Ground Frame...

 

[pellet]

Ay up!
two screenies from me, for once!

27036 leads 6 classmates on the 0T57 light loco movement, as they approach Lusk.

on the rear is 27051, showing its last working to be 8P12, the driver of this end taking a break whilst the driver of 036 does all of the work, they are posed next to a convoy of 37's, which includes D6971, which was running as 0T55, both bound for the same destination

as for 0T56, that was a movement heading in the other direction

 

[46035]

37411 (WIP) passes Willhurst with a short oil trip....

 

[ex-railwayman]

One from me:

R3

Can you tell me which layout this screenie is from please rumour3, is it by puffernutter ??
BTW it's fabulous as well, you've captured the mood brilliantly.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

 

[rumour3]

Can you tell me which layout this screenie is from please rumour3, is it by puffernutter ??
BTW it's fabulous as well, you've captured the mood brilliantly.

Cheerz. ex-railwayman.

Thanks, ex-railwayman. The route is my version of the line from Liskeard to Looe and it's a WIP at the moment, although it is nearing completion and I hope to upload it to the dls when it's finished.

Cheers

R3

 

[emo]

Nice shots all.

 

[lewisner]

Emo, I'love to know what your FPS are like with all that JVC veg around...heres a Clayton approaching Fawcett Street Junction in Sunderland on its way to the docks..

 

[emo]

It's not all JVC vegetation, It does run very smooth though, Why you ask?

 

[lewisner]

Well emo, I have a lot of detail such as JVC and splines and my FPS are pretty bad.You have a lot more detail, and I'm just curious to know how it works out vis a vis FPS.Maybe I'll start an FPS thread here...

 

[escafeld]

Lewisner - You have to have comparable machines to do a comparison. My machine is rather dated now and got to the point where I am no longer able to work on my largest layout, let alone run on it. I've just done a fictional station where the drive through is a bit of a struggle to get through where you can even count the frames. I've sent it to Gamerouche (Tom) to see what he makes of it. I'll send it to you if you wish and see how you get on with it. I would be interesting to compare specs and results. BTW, I need you to mail me an address if you're interested.