UK Screenshots (Hi Res Version)

[Captain_Scarlet]

But then again, there's an excellent Black 5 available, lined and unlined, with TC3. I don't know why we're bothering with a five year old model when we have a much better one available for only £20 (plus all the other improvements that TC3 offers).

Why can't UK Trainzers get behind TC3 rather than continuing to flog the dead horse of TRS04?

Just a thought.

Paul

£20 is a fair amount of money for one engine and TC3 offers features many will care about. Trainz2004 is the version for which most content is created for. I'd have to dig deep to find TC or even 2006 exclusive content. 2004 and even 1.3.

People won't go behind newer version if they find little advantage in it. You might like the new version but not everyone does. For many it is silly to create content for TC3 only as a little number of users would then be able to use it.

I've lost count of TC content I've back dated to 1.3 level because the content itself has no discerning feature and works in the 2002 version with little modification. Just sticking a new trainz-build tag in the config is just silly.
I bet you can't even differenciate TC3 screenshots in this thread.

sonne03, I'd love to see areal shots of the area you've reproduced!

 

[trackplate]

 

[Paulsw2]

I think whether or not I reskin the TRS2004 Black 5 is up to two people only- the original creator and me.

Whether I upgrade to a version of Trainz I don't actually need is up to one person- me only.

TRS2004 is definitely not a dead horse, if you want to use TC3 and have the hassle of an upgrade that is entirely up to you, what anyone else does is up to them. By the same token, why haven't you upgraded to TRS2009 when that essentially obsoletes TC3: for the same reason I've not upgraded, I'm perfectly happy with what I have got.

Well this thread isn't really the place to have a debate about the merits of TC3 and I apologise for being rather cheeky in raising the issue in response to the Black 5 reskin (it's probably not a good idea to submit a post after the third glass of wine.....)

However, here's a thought - do new reskins of old TRS04 models that are also available in new, updated forms in TC3 undermine sales of TC3? We know that sales of TC3 have underperformed, largely due to Auran's lack of support, but surely the continued promotion of TRS04 via these reskins also undermines sales? It's one thing to issue reskins of old models, like the class 20, that are not available elsewhere, but the Blue class 5 is in direct competition with the Pikkabird class 5 that's available in TC3. Actually it should be no contest, just look:

But the issuing of new reskins of this old model clearly muddies the waters and may persuade some people that it's not worth upgrading to TC3 even though, almost certainly, they'll benefit from doing so.

Is it in the wider interests of the UK Trainzer community to undermine sales of the best, and most stable, version of Trainz we've ever had? (Which also explains why I've not 'upgraded' to TS09 yet, seeing you asked.)

Just another thought! Back to the screen-shots.....

Paul

 

[tmz06003]

Well this thread isn't really the place to have a debate about the merits of TC3 and I apologise for being rather cheeky in raising the issue in response to the Black 5 reskin (it's probably not a good idea to submit a post after the third glass of wine.....)

However, here's a thought - do new reskins of old TRS04 models that are also available in new, updated forms in TC3 undermine sales of TC3?

competition with the Pikkabird class 5 that's available in TC3. Actually it should be no contest, just look:

Paul

Firstly- you are missing the point entirely- anything produced in TRS2004 will work in TC3 so enhances that product also in the long run. Due to my groups efforts we now have class 20s with disc headcodes and many wagons across the board that were not previously available- and much much more.

Secondly you haven't shown the reskin of the Black 5 I have done against the new one so what actually is the point of that screenshot??? Why don't you post a screenshot of the new class 60 against, say the TC3 class 24 and try to compare them?

Thirdly- if you are suggesting that a reskin of a TRS2004 model is affecting sales of TC3 then you are suggesting TC3 is frankly not good enough- this arguement is actually ridiculous. TC3 stands or falls on the merits of it's own content, not what third parties are providing for any other versions of Trainz. As I see it, TC3 has a fantastic route and some of the best vehicles available for UK Trainz. Unfortunately it didn't include content from previous versions of Trainz, a big mistake in my opinion. As that content has not gone on the DLS, or been incorporated in TRS2009, then it is basically standalone; I think this was the big problem. What my group does is caters for everyone- I've even tried to sort out problems with content so they will work in TC3 and TRS2009 so am consciously catering for everyone.

Fourthly- I will say it again, if I want to release content for TRS2004 I will do so. Captain Scarlet summarised it in a nutshell above- most of the UK content is available in that version. so anything produced by the TC3 team is done for a minority; I am spending countless hours catering for as many Trainzers as I can, all for no personal financial gain, which is my rather unselfish philosophy.

 

[LieLestoSbrat]

I think it also partly depends on the era that you want to represent and also what you want to do in the game. Myself its a mixture of route building and driving, but all my routes are orientated around 60's and earlier, thus TC3 is a far more attractive proposition for me as it caters to what I want. The TC3 singling and steam physics really matter for this type of era. If you modelling anything after 68 then TC3 is not as attractive as not all the benefits maybe realised, eg steam physics. If you just spend you time in surveyor and only hit driver to take screens then really 2006 or higher isn't an attractive proposition. Many have said that Auran shot themselves in the foot in announcing 2009 before TC3 hit the shelves. Not exactly a great marketing. The lack of builtin 2004 content in TC3 is a bit of a problem but luckily on my fictional route I've largely managed to negate this issue with downloading acceptable or better replacement content of the DLS. On the content creation front for steam locos it is more of pain in making them backwards compatible with pre TC3 versions of Trainz due to the number of improvements in the TC3 code that allow for better steam operations. These mainly being physics, sound and bogie control. To sum up, If you want 60's or earlier operations then it maybe worth giving TC3 and good look, especially if you combine it with either 2009 or add in 2004/2006 content to TC3. If building outside that era then you've got 2004/2006/2009 to take your pick from.

Rob

 

[nexusdj]

Shunting the stock from the overnight sleeper ...

Taken in TC3

 

[electra]

2 generations of Northern EMU meet at Eastbury (Yorkshire Plains)...

(taken in 2009 )

 

[46035]

60074 on ballast again.....

This screenshot was brought to you by TRS2004 and rightfully so!

 

[tmz06003]

Is it in the wider interests of the UK Trainzer community to undermine sales of the best, and most stable, version of Trainz we've ever had? (Which also explains why I've not 'upgraded' to TS09 yet, seeing you asked.)

Paul

Well, get supporting Auran yourself then and upgrade to TRS2009 now and no excuses....(well that's your ridiculous arguement taken a stage further). When TRS2010 comes out, make sure you purchase that straight away too, and TRS2011, and TRS2012 etc.

By the way, TRS2004 is definitely the best Trainz version in my opinion (you should have added that line to your post for accuracy), at the majority of content works in it- so why don't you buy a copy of that as well:hehe: ??

Strangely enough no-one seems to be posting to agree with your extreme views, a few have posted disagreeing though.

 

[trackplate]

More 5


Come on folks after all this is a screenshot thread

 

[rodbasin]

Shot at 2009-05-27

Shot at 2009-05-27

 

[Captain_Scarlet]

Splendid engine you have there Trackplate, all clean with red passenger service lines. It's spring and all

Very nice first shot rodbasin, I love the industries. What, may I ask, is this tappered roofed factory to the right?

For the sake of posting some screenshots, here are some I might have posted before.

Granted, I've since changed the track but I'd like to think the views are quite stunning. These are shots of Bridgehouses station where the Woodhead railway once ended. First shot is looking towards Nunnery with the factories around Wicker, the second is looking towards Neepsend and the former tunnel now cutting.

 

[tmz06003]

Right enough, this thread is about screenshots. Since this Black 5 reskin has generated so much excitement, here's a screenshot of it about to depart from Fort William:




This shows the real reason behind this reskin, specially reskinned locos for another in the series of Fort William- Mallaig sessions. Steam returned to the line in 1984, 5407 doing the honours. After a couple of months, 5407 had a west highland terrier symbol added to the cabside for working the route as can be seen here drawing admiring glances from the passengers. In the other direction there is a white stripe Eastfield class 37 scheduled to pass at Glenfinnan, again specially skinned for this purpose.

 

[angelah]

As you say

As you say, a thread for screenies, so here are some....

More coming and thanks to Photobucket for the hosting.

Angela

 

[angelah]

As promised

A few more....

A new route I am working on.... Not a Black 5, but Defiant...

Photobucket did the honours again.

Angela

2004

 

[tardis626]

Nice screenies- just to let you know on the 3rd screen shot of your first post of the 2 today theres a square of missing water (ringed in the pic below)

phil:wave:
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GONG BONG

 

[angelah]

Black 5

Just couldn't resist this shot, a Black Five...

Taken in 2004

Thanks Photobucket for the hosting.

Angela

 

[angelah]

Cheers

Cheers for that Tardis, hadn't noticed it. But there's an awful long way to go yet... don't hold your breath for this one!

Bless you for that.

Angela

 

[samandjames2007]

Hey,



No screenys from me, the thing doesnt work


Just wondering were i can get the Class 46 shown on page 21?



Sam

 

[bassist118]

Wow Angela thats breathtaking, you keep comming out with such amazingly detailed routes giving us all somthing to aspire to.

Where did you come across the water effects in the first two screenies they look very realistic.

Thanks for some wonderfull screenies

:Y::Y:

Andy