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I use a CRT display, and the colors are great. With LCD, the black levels are not that good, and the color gamut is iffy depending on the design of the LCD panels and the back lighting. I looked at a Flight sim on an LCD monitor and it was terrible, compared to how it looks on my CRT monitor. Don't forget. LCD monitors come in different qualities, and you really have to compare the side by side to see the difference. The entry level monitors are usually pretty poor quality.

Agreed. The only LCD I have encountered in which colors don't look at least slightly washed out is my wife's screen, an LG W2240T. It definitely wasn't entry-level. I'm not fond of the widescreen aspect ratio either, which is why I stuck with the CRT.
 
Robert
I had a 32" CRT TV once and it weighed 140ibs. What size monitor do you use and what definition is it.?

A laptop screen, depending on the angle can distort the colours but I've had flat panel screens for about 8 years and I find the colour superb. There are plenty of adjustments so there is no excuse for poor colour.
TV screens would also suffer if there were no colour settings.

Ken

I retired 6 years ago as the Training Director for a European Company that produced high end video displays used by commercial simulators, TV broadcast networks, rental and staging companies, the government etc. Some of the displays were over a million dollars. I taught technicians and engineers how to adjust and maintain these displays. I sometimes calibrated the color on these displays with a meter that cost $22,000.

There are different technologies used in display devices that produce colors and color gamuts that vary from really good to total junk. Add to that, the adjustment of the devices, the scan converter that drives them, the adjustments on the GPU, there are a host of things in the video chain that can affect the output dramatically.

Right now, at home, I am using a 25" monitor and the dot pitch is around .20 mm if I remember correctly. At a normal monitor viewing distance, you need a high power magnifying glass to see the dots. The advantage of CRT's is still accurate color rendition, and good color balance compared to other technologies. This will probably all change in the next few years with OLEDs being utilized in large screen displays.
 
I retired 6 years ago as the Training Director for a European Company that produced high end video displays used by commercial simulators, TV broadcast networks, rental and staging companies, the government etc. Some of the displays were over a million dollars. I taught technicians and engineers how to adjust and maintain these displays. I sometimes calibrated the color on these displays with a meter that cost $22,000.

There are different technologies used in display devices that produce colors and color gamuts that vary from really good
to total junk. Add to that, the adjustment of the devices, the scan converter that drives them, the adjustments on the GPU, there are a host of things in the video chain that can affect the output dramatically.

Right now, at home, I am using a 25" monitor and the dot pitch is around .20 mm if I remember correctly. At a normal monitor viewing distance, you need a high power magnifying glass to see the dots. The advantage of CRT's is still
accurate color rendition, and good color balance compared to other technologies. This will probably all change in the next few years with OLEDs being utilized in large screen displays.

Hi Robert
Well personally I have always thought that flat screens were an advance on run of the mill CRTs. As I've never seen a top of the range CRT I have nothing to compare it to. I cannot tell the difference between SD and HD TV programs so to a certain extent that works in my favour as I don't know any better.

Regards

Ken
 
"There are times when having multiple apps on the screen at one time would be infinitely more useful and efficient than having to switch between separate, standalone apps."

Yes, exactly, and I don't disagree that it's useful. But that isn't multitasking, that's windowing. For better or for worse, Apple prefers you to focus on one app at a time, and swap apps when you want to change focus (equivalent to alt-tab or the task bar in Windows.) Everything you list above is still possible on an iPad, just not all visible on the one screen at the same time.

chris


I agree, Chris. Apple always did this even with their earlier OS 7.53 through OS 9. Even performing system-level tasks such as formatting a removable device required waiting for that window to close before moving on to something else. With Microsoft Windows, running on the PC, it is capable as you know of performing system-level actions at the same time as running other applications. With Windows we can format a thumb drive or removable hard drive while browsing the internet at the same time. The same with running other applications in the background while using one in the foreground.

John
 
I retired 6 years ago as the Training Director for a European Company that produced high end video displays used by commercial simulators, TV broadcast networks, rental and staging companies, the government etc. Some of the displays were over a million dollars. I taught technicians and engineers how to adjust and maintain these displays. I sometimes calibrated the color on these displays with a meter that cost $22,000.

There are different technologies used in display devices that produce colors and color gamuts that vary from really good to total junk. Add to that, the adjustment of the devices, the scan converter that drives them, the adjustments on the GPU, there are a host of things in the video chain that can affect the output dramatically.

Right now, at home, I am using a 25" monitor and the dot pitch is around .20 mm if I remember correctly. At a normal monitor viewing distance, you need a high power magnifying glass to see the dots. The advantage of CRT's is still accurate color rendition, and good color balance compared to other technologies. This will probably all change in the next few years with OLEDs being utilized in large screen displays.

Very interesting, Robert. I was a video terminal techician that used to repair video circuitry on high-end video terminals back in the day. I prefer the CRT displays and was really truly heartbroken when my old trusty NEC monitor died a few years ago. I purchased a fairly decent LCD, but I find the display difficult to see. The resolution is just not there and the angle-placement issue is very frustrating. The display is either too high or too low for me to really get the clear picture I need and want.

John
 
Very interesting, Robert. I was a video terminal techician that used to repair video circuitry on high-end video terminals back in the day. I prefer the CRT displays and was really truly heartbroken when my old trusty NEC monitor died a few years ago. I purchased a fairly decent LCD, but I find the display difficult to see. The resolution is just not there and the angle-placement issue is very frustrating. The display is either too high or too low for me to really get the clear picture I need and want.

John

The other issue, is if you want a bigger screen, with LCD, you have to crank up the resolution on the GPU in order to fill the panel, which puts a load on the frame rate. With a CRT, you can have a fairly low resolution of say 1280 x 1024,, or 1600 x 1200 , but still have a good sized display with the frame rates plummeting.

I used to teach component level repair to technicians too, but that has almost disappeared now, since it is more economical to replace parts and circuit boards rather than repairing them.
 
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With Microsoft Windows, running on the PC, it is capable as you know of performing system-level actions at the same time as running other applications. The same with running other applications in the background while using one in the foreground.

There's no direct comparison here since the iPad doesn't need to format disks, but unlike what you seem to be implying, the iPad does not necessarily "freeze" all background activity, nor does it ever prevent you from swapping instantly between running apps. Multi-finger swiping left or right will swap apps as per 'alt-tab' on Windows. Multi-finger swiping up (or double-pressing the 'home' button) will show the application list which allows you to swap to a specific application (similar to the task bar on windows.)

The big difference is that on Windows (or Linux / MacOS), you can either view multiple application windows on the screen, or you can run with them maximised. On the iPad, they're always maximised.

chris
 
The big difference is that on Windows (or Linux / MacOS), you can either view multiple application windows on the screen, or you can run with them maximised. On the iPad, they're always maximised.

chris
Unless you're prepared to jailbreak, in which case there is Quasar.
 
There's no direct comparison here since the iPad doesn't need to format disks, but unlike what you seem to be implying, the iPad does not necessarily "freeze" all background activity, nor does it ever prevent you from swapping instantly between running apps. Multi-finger swiping left or right will swap apps as per 'alt-tab' on Windows. Multi-finger swiping up (or double-pressing the 'home' button) will show the application list which allows you to swap to a specific application (similar to the task bar on windows.)

The big difference is that on Windows (or Linux / MacOS), you can either view multiple application windows on the screen, or you can run with them maximised. On the iPad, they're always maximised.

chris

I borrowed my daughter's iPad for a day, and thought typing on it was grueling. Can't see how folks like them.
 
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