TRS19 - Early Access Is Coming!
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I suspect the main issue is not so much one of drawing the track but of registering the crossover or diamond within the signalling system without the user resorting to complex third party solutions.KotangaGirl
Pre-Grouping Railways Nut
I had a think about the subscription model and I decided to go for the silver option for now. My life situation is perhaps different to most in that I'm a mostly bed bound invalid with no real demands on my time, I don't have a job I have to go to and I don't have a life partner/husband/ significant other I have to diplomatically negotiate with over spending money , - and after getting out of a hell of a 15 year long abusive marriage I'm totally happy to be on my own (Praise be!). So I'm free to do what I want and what I do most of the time is play trains, build layouts and just lately make pre-grouping era rolling stock for upload to the DLS.
I still use the older versions of Trainz and I mostly use them for building my layouts since they do what they say on the tin and there's no 'TANE ate my homework' issues with them. Lately I've been using TANE SP3 purely just to play trains (if you excuse the expression) on the better quality UK layouts I've downloaded from the DLS. If I look on TS2019 as just being like a video game and an upgrade on TANE SP3 and I just use it for playing trains it will no doubt be good entertainment. I might be dead in five years so I don't especially care if N3V lasts the distance or not, - though I hope they do. The subscription cost is about the same as going to see a movie in a movie theatre or a very small and modest lunch at a cafe which are both things I can't do so what the hell. It isn't as if N3V is saying sign here in your own blood and we will now own your soul; - though from some of what I been reading in these thread you'd think they were doing that. It's not as if any of the DLC is stuff I might have worked on for hours like my own models so if it all goes 'poof' off to vapour land why should I care. If I had a bit of fun with it that should be all that counts.
So sorry for the longish post, but I just wanted to throw my thoughts out there. And just in case anybody thinks the rot is setting in I still hate diesels and star wars toothpaste tube trains and I definitely won't be running any of those.
I still use the older versions of Trainz and I mostly use them for building my layouts since they do what they say on the tin and there's no 'TANE ate my homework' issues with them. Lately I've been using TANE SP3 purely just to play trains (if you excuse the expression) on the better quality UK layouts I've downloaded from the DLS. If I look on TS2019 as just being like a video game and an upgrade on TANE SP3 and I just use it for playing trains it will no doubt be good entertainment. I might be dead in five years so I don't especially care if N3V lasts the distance or not, - though I hope they do. The subscription cost is about the same as going to see a movie in a movie theatre or a very small and modest lunch at a cafe which are both things I can't do so what the hell. It isn't as if N3V is saying sign here in your own blood and we will now own your soul; - though from some of what I been reading in these thread you'd think they were doing that. It's not as if any of the DLC is stuff I might have worked on for hours like my own models so if it all goes 'poof' off to vapour land why should I care. If I had a bit of fun with it that should be all that counts.
So sorry for the longish post, but I just wanted to throw my thoughts out there. And just in case anybody thinks the rot is setting in I still hate diesels and star wars toothpaste tube trains and I definitely won't be running any of those.
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Vals_Loeder
Banned
Where do I say you have to buy a subscription? This sub thing is new to trainz, hence we have a sub based Trainz; from now on. And because this will generate more revenue you can already see that you "get" a lot more when subbing. BUT if you want to actually "have" it you will need to pay again. Which is, to me, not acceptable for this kind of program.
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If we look carefully, there are always some saner messages among the lot. Glad to read that Trainz has been able to help you pass the time and provide some pleasure. Diesels I understand (electric is where I swing) but I don't get the reference to "star wars toothpaste tube trains." what does that mean?
Please if I am a gold subscriber (one full year option) and buy DLC with it and next year I decide I don't want to be gold anymore and cancel the subscription.
But I still want to be able to play Trainz so I buy Trainz 2019
Then I lost all the DLC I got through the subscription or still can play with them with the standalone game? Many thanks
ps: sorry for my bad english, spanish speaker.
But I still want to be able to play Trainz so I buy Trainz 2019
Then I lost all the DLC I got through the subscription or still can play with them with the standalone game? Many thanks
ps: sorry for my bad english, spanish speaker.
KotangaGirl
Pre-Grouping Railways Nut
We should be so lucky to have something that cool looking up here in the US.
I know what you mean though at least they don't look like Nike sneakers like some SUVs do.
That is my question too.
KotangaGirl
Pre-Grouping Railways Nut
If my health really packs up and I die and I arrange to have my estate keep my subscription going can I still play Trainz in the afterlife?
Tony_Hilliam
Trainz Plus - enjoy Trainz from just 20 cents a da
Gold Class members get 25% off everything (digital items) in the store. Buying those items as a member is no different to buying them normally, so obviously it is yours to keep.
The 15 items in your Content Vault starter pack and the 5 items you choose each month from the Monthly Collection that you enjoyed throughout the year will show as "Not active" when you cancel your annual membership.
Let's say a few months later a new route that you like worth $39.99 is released as part of the Monthly Collection. You can subscribe for a month for $14.99, enjoy that DLC item for a month, and all your previously selected DLC is now active again.
Plus you'll get to try out some new DLC items during the month as well (as part of your Preview Pass), plus select 4 other items to add to your Content Vault that month and (since it's 5 items per calendar month) you get another 5 items to select in the next month.
Prior to the end of the expiry of your month (if you rejoin on the 6th, your membership goes to the 5th of the next month), you can decide:
(i) You liked the value of the 10 new DLC items you got so you rejoin for another month
(ii) Use your 25% discount to get $10 off the new route you liked and cancel again (this means you're only $5 worse off for your full month)
The 15 items in your Content Vault starter pack and the 5 items you choose each month from the Monthly Collection that you enjoyed throughout the year will show as "Not active" when you cancel your annual membership.
Let's say a few months later a new route that you like worth $39.99 is released as part of the Monthly Collection. You can subscribe for a month for $14.99, enjoy that DLC item for a month, and all your previously selected DLC is now active again.
Plus you'll get to try out some new DLC items during the month as well (as part of your Preview Pass), plus select 4 other items to add to your Content Vault that month and (since it's 5 items per calendar month) you get another 5 items to select in the next month.
Prior to the end of the expiry of your month (if you rejoin on the 6th, your membership goes to the 5th of the next month), you can decide:
(i) You liked the value of the 10 new DLC items you got so you rejoin for another month
(ii) Use your 25% discount to get $10 off the new route you liked and cancel again (this means you're only $5 worse off for your full month)
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bblake8480
New member
But how can you enjoy your new route if cancelling your gold subscription means losing access to TRS2019?
Tony_Hilliam
Trainz Plus - enjoy Trainz from just 20 cents a da
The post I was answering had said:
But I still want to be able to play Trainz so I buy Trainz 2019
But I still want to be able to play Trainz so I buy Trainz 2019
thanks, now all is clear. Low english here so was trying to collect all the data the best I can
bblake8480
New member
But this is what is upsetting people. That you lose access to the game itself (and therefore any content you bought with your discount) after you've shelled out $150 unless you pay ANOTHER $70. If they were instead to say if you subscribe for a year, then TRS2019 is yours to keep. You own it, period, and you can keep playing it after you end that subscription. If they were to just say that, a lot fewer people would be upset. Yes, I will lose access to the ongoing monthly bonus content and FCT and 14 day preview content and 25% discount. That's fine. But the fact I lose access to the game itself is what is upsetting by far the most. I don't understand what that's so hard to grasp.
That is my issue as well. Why would I want to spend $150 for a year of gold, and have NOTHING to show if I decide to cancel? So I gave you $150 and I get access to a game, and some content but you take everything away, including the game? I understand how subscriptions work, for instance, the PS4 and Xbox have subscriptions that allow me to get free games, and discounts to games. If I cancel my subscription, I lose access to the free games, but those that I paid for I get to keep using. Here, you're taking away everything! If I didn't spend an extra $70 for the base game, I lose access to even things I purchase? 
Tony_Hilliam
Trainz Plus - enjoy Trainz from just 20 cents a da
Let's look at what you get during the year:
* Game - $70
* FCT - $35
* 15 Starter Pack DLC items ~$200 (yes you are likely to own some of these, but let's say you are totally new to Trainz so you don't)
* 5 Monthly Collection items in August ~$100
* 5 Monthly Collection items in September ~$100
* 25% Store Discount
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item (first of which to be announced next week)
* 25% off that item if you want to buy it later (even when it goes on sale)
* Exclusive member deal (who knows - could be a new or discounted DLC item or something else)
Total value so far, let call it ~$500
Note: To this point, this is the same deal you can get for $15 as a monthly
then as an annual
* 5 Monthly Collection items in October ~$100
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in December ~$100
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in January ~$100
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in February ~$100
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* Trainz PLUS cool new features added
* 5 Monthly Collection items in March ~$100
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in April ~$100
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in May ~$100
* More Trainz PLUS cool new features added
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in June ~$100
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in July ~$100
* Trainz PLUS cool new features added (including a really really cool feature)
* Preview for 14 days of a brand new not-yet-released DLC item
* 5 Monthly Collection items in August ~$100 (because you joined Aug 24, you end Aug 24, 2019)
Total value so far, roughly $1500
Ok, so you enjoyed $1500 worth of stuff and paid $150 (we assume at this stage you're happy with the first year of things).
However, now you don't want to spend another $150 (even though you thought the first year was great). So you cancel.
"Man, I miss all that stuff I was playing with for 5 hours a week for the past 52 weeks, what am I going to do?"
Hmm.. after a week of twiddling your thumbs you read that there is a new Trainz PLUS feature pack coming out next month. "For $15 I can reinstate my Gold Class membership and check it out."
Now is the time you realize that Trainz is in fact a much better experience than just the base game and you're actually quite happy spending 50 cents an hour to enjoy everything. What else would you rather be doing?
Ok, there is a huge disconnect here. Let's try this another way. Let's say for example I get the gold subscription, but I can't afford to lay out $150 at the moment, so I go for the $15 a month route. Here is where the question comes in. After, let's say 4 months, I decide to cancel my subscription, either I can't afford it, or I'm just seeing a bunch of stuff I'm not interested in, and don't feel it is worth the cost. What happens to the base game? I know all the DLC, starter pack, collectors items, etc, etc go away until I re-instate. What is vague and still unanswered is what happens to the base game? Also, are you saying that any additional content I purchase is gone as well? The current way you are wording this is that unless you purchase the full game separately, you will not be able to use ANY of it if your strictly a gold member and your subscription expires.
For just $14.99 per month, Gold Class provides all the benefits of the Silver Class membership, plus a number of extras:
For just $14.99 per month, Gold Class provides all the benefits of the Silver Class membership, plus a number of extras:
- Access to Trainz A New Era
- Early Access to TRS19 right now
- Access to TRS19 upon release (as long as you remain a member)
- Exclusive access to ongoing feature updates with “Trainz PLUS”
- A 25% Trainz Store discount on digital items
- Exclusive access to our 14 Day DLC “Preview Pass”.
- You can cancel your membership at any time and all benefits will end at the expiration of that billing period.
- If you renew, your Content Vault is immediately accessible again (including your original Starter Pack items and all your Monthly Collection choices), and you have immediate access to TANE and TRS19.
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Tony_Hilliam
Trainz Plus - enjoy Trainz from just 20 cents a da
The only way for me to enjoy the "pre-release" of TRS19 at this moment in time, is to get a gold subscription, either yearly or monthly.
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Wrong. You can order from the store, download and install right now. (Read the Open Letter thread for full details).
What happens to the base game?
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You can cancel your membership at any time and all benefits (including access to TANE and TRS19) will end at the expiration of that billing period.
(The FAQ was modified recently to hopefully make things clearer - hit Ctrl-F5 to refresh your browser and see the latest version.
This was also added:
[h=4]How does membership affect products I already own?[/h][FONT="]A. Memberships do not affect your existing items such as ownership of TANE, DLC items or First Class Tickets. If you purchase items with your Membership discount, then you own them even if you cancel your membership.[/FONT]
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Wrong. You can order from the store, download and install right now. (Read the Open Letter thread for full details).
What happens to the base game?
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You can cancel your membership at any time and all benefits (including access to TANE and TRS19) will end at the expiration of that billing period.
(The FAQ was modified recently to hopefully make things clearer - hit Ctrl-F5 to refresh your browser and see the latest version.
This was also added:
[h=4]How does membership affect products I already own?[/h][FONT="]A. Memberships do not affect your existing items such as ownership of TANE, DLC items or First Class Tickets. If you purchase items with your Membership discount, then you own them even if you cancel your membership.[/FONT]