Trainz / Youtube Monetization...

Engioc

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OK not being terribly good with all the legal stuff in EULA's and the like I'm wondering....

Is it OK to monetize youtube videos that show Trainz? (Any version)

Do I need permission from any 3rd party if my video shows content created by someone other than Auran?

Are there any forms I need to fill in first?

If this isn't currently possible then could this be considered for future....the reason I ask is as a fan of the ArmA series of milsims they now have an agreement fans can sign that then allows them to legally monetize videos showing any of their games. They clearly see no problem with fans promoting their game and making a little extra money by doing so, it also helps encourage fans to make videos when they get a small reward for doing so.

It can only help to promote the Trainz brand.


I'll take the lack of response as a no shall I :).
 
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lack of response

OK not being terribly good with all the legal stuff in EULA's and the like I'm wondering....

Is it OK to monetize youtube videos that show Trainz? (Any version)

Do I need permission from any 3rd party if my video shows content created by someone other than Auran?

Are there any forms I need to fill in first?

If this isn't currently possible then could this be considered for future....the reason I ask is as a fan of the ArmA series of milsims they now have an agreement fans can sign that then allows them to legally monetize videos showing any of their games. They clearly see no problem with fans promoting their game and making a little extra money by doing so, it also helps encourage fans to make videos when they get a small reward for doing so.

It can only help to promote the Trainz brand.


I'll take the lack of response as a no shall I :).

I think many trainzers don't respond because of genuinly not having answers ..can you imagine if we all answered IDK in every thread :D
 
Monetization?

I suspect that means make a slick quid off someone else's effort. Sounds better your way!

If what you mean is take a loco that Creator 'A' sweated blood into making, hook it in front of a consist made by Creator 'B', place the lot on a route Creator 'C' spent three years making, then shoot a video from which YOU make a profit - you gotta be kidding...
 
I see people don't really understand Monetisation.

Monetisation is basically when YouTube puts an advertisment or two on your video. YouTube gets paid to show the ad, and if someone clicks on the ad, some of the money YouTube makes goes to the user whose video the ad is on.

Or at least that's my understanding of what I heard on YouTube itself. I'll do more research too.

So the OP is asking whether it is OK to accept ads to be placed on, and some profit to be made from, Trainz videos on YouTube. I have been offered to set my videos up for monetisation, but I haven't done it yet, and probably won't for a while.

Kieran.
 
I believe an adequate amount of compensation for any videos I may produce is precisely 100 million interweb dollars per nanosecond of video viewed.

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For those of you who do not understand YouTube monetization, what it means is YouTube puts ads on your video and gives you a cut of the revenue at no cost to viewers.
 
Asset licence might now allow you to make a profit in any way, shape or form

In a lot of content uploaded to the DLS, there is a licence included stating something similair like this:
Nobody is allowed to distribute this asset in any shape, way or form without written approval of me, the creator of this asset.
Nobody is allowed to use this asset in any shape, way or form for anything they are asking and/or getting payment for in any shape, way or form without written approval of me, the creator of this asset.
Since filming the asset and then sharing that movie is basicly doing the above: Distribute in a shape, way or form, and getting revenue from it is getting a payment, the developers of the content gets to sue the persons who put it on youtube and claim their share.

In other words:
@ Engioc:
Before you start doing that, be sure to go and check the licence of each and every item you have filmed in your movie.
Good luck fixing your movie with the removal of all those assets.
 
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No no, you dont pay to watch the video, but you'd notice on many videos youtube put advertising that plays before your video does, if you monetize a video youtube give you a share in the profits from that advertising.

So its kind of a reward for attracting people to youtube who see these ads. Now normally you can only monetize videos that are entirely your own content or which you own copyright for, so Trainz would normally not be allowed, but I'm wondering if it can be made OK for fans to monetize Trainz videos and not be penalized for it

As I said the main reason I'm asking is because Bohemia Interactive (BI) who make the ArmA series of games have recently allowed fans to sign a form (available on their forums) which is allows fans to monetize videos of their games, so fill in and sign the form then email it off to the addresses they provided and your good to start making a little extra cash. So now every time someone watches a video I've made covering ArmA and they see the advertising played before hand I get paid a small amount of money. We're not talking big bucks here, just small change, but still its a little extra cash. I guess most gaming companies enjoy the free advertising they get from fans posting videos of their games, but BI went one step further and gave us a reward. Now like Bohemia Interactive I'd say Auran is one of the smaller developers and I think would benefit from doing this too. There isn't a huge amount of videos out there covering Trainz when compared to more mainstream games and this type of thing would help encourage people to post more, and good quality too. Instead of just a Screenshot competition I see in the newsletter there could be a video of the month too, help to encourage and promote high quality videos that really show off how great Trainz is.

In a lot of content uploaded to the DLS, there is a licence included stating something similair like this:
Since filming the asset and then sharing that movie is basicly doing the above: Distribute in a shape, way or form, and getting revenue from it is getting a payment, the developers of the content gets to sue the persons who put it on youtube and claim their share.

In other words:
@ Engioc:
Before you start doing that, be sure to go and check the licence of each and every item you have filmed in your movie.
Good luck fixing your movie with the removal of all those assets.

Yeah that could be an issue and I'll have to make sure I know what content I'm showing and seek permission, not use it, or stick to using built in content as much as possible. Even if I made a route of content I created entirely on my own that still doesn't get around the fact there is copyright on the game itself so I need to seek permission from Auran/N3V, which is what I'm doing here. I haven't made a single video yet, I am planning to make some regardless of the outcome here, all this will change is the ability to monetize or not. If its not allowed that's fine, its just a simple question based on what another small developer is doing, I'll happily make videos and make nothing from the advertising, and I was already planning to use as much built in content as possible because my ideas for the videos is to help people get in to building routes without the need to download huge amounts of extra content.

My simple idea is week 1 create a video showing a new route being created, just a small base board of 1 or 2, nothing too big. Week 2 you see me running a few trains around on it. Week 3 back in to editing and expand on that original route. Week 4 have a drive around on the extended version. So simply showing a new route and gradually growing that until it ends up being a long and complex route. Its not that different to the official Auran videos but mine would be at a slower pace and run over a year or more so people can really see how to create a route, start from something small and gradually build it up.

I'm a complete novice at creating routes, so as I learn others like me can learn and gradually create a route of their own. So a video from the point of view of a complete novice, who isn't really a train buff, but like games and wants to get in to Trainz.

Also just to be clear I'm not asking this question just for my own benefit, all I get is a bit of small change by monetizing videos, we're talking less than 20c per view. This can benefit all of those here who do create their own content, you too can make some money if you post a video showing your content, except you need permission from N3V. Also if you already post videos, well youtube/google are making a nice profit from your hard work, but you dont want the ability to take some of that profit for yourself??? Better in my pocket or yours than google imo.
 
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