Trainz Problem

[trainz4]

Hey guys ive had a problem with trainz for a while and ive tried figuring out why but im not sure anymore. Trainz says i dont have enough system memory (255 out of the 1 Gig recommended by the diagnostics tool). I have 6 gigs of Ram plus the 2 on the graphics card. I cant figure this out Win 8 shouldnt be using almost all 6 gigs.

I have the following
6 gigs of Ram
Win 8 64bit
[h=1]GeForce GT 610 2GB DDR3
AMD A6 5200 2 Ghz Quad Core
300 watt power supply ( yes i know i need a new one )[/h]

 

[shaneturner12]

If TrainzDiag is not reporting the memory correctly, I would check that the system is picking it up correctly as well.

Shane

 

[trainz4]

How do i go about doing that?

 

[shaneturner12]

Right-click (My) Computer, then click Properties - it should tell you the figure it is reading.

Shane

 

[trainz4]

Installed Memory "6.00 GB", but there isnt any way that WIN 8 should use almost all of it is there? is there anyway i could allocate more ram to system use or?

 

[shaneturner12]

It shouldn't do, but I would suggest checking what else may be running at the same time. As I haven't got Windows 8, it's difficult for me to check.

Can I get you to post the part of the TrainzDiag log that covers the pass/fail/warning part? (Use Save Log then open that log in Notepad then use copy and paste)

Shane

 

[trainz4]

What i dont understand is that with my current set up trainz is laggy, 10-15FPS sometimes lower. I use content from mostly JVC,Jointed Rail,RRmods,USLW,POFIG




Version : 1.1
Compiled on : Nov 2 2011 18:20:34


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System Information
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Time of this report : 07/01/2014, 10:02:41
Operating System : Home Edition (Build 9200)
Screen Size : 1024 x 768
Ram Found : 4095 MB
Ram Free : 4095 MB
Virtual Ram Free : 1733 MB
Raw Cpu Clock Speed : ~2.00 GHZ
OEM ID : 0
Number of processors : 4
Page size : 4096
Processor type : 586
Processor Architecture : 0
Processor Level : 22
Processor Revision : 1
Allocation Granularity : 65536
3D-Now : Unavailable
FP operations : Not Emulated
FP precision error : Does not occur
MMX : Available
Physical Address Extension : Available
RDTSC instruction : Available
SSE instruction : Available
SSE2 instruction : Available


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Test Results
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CPU Speed : ~2.00 GHZ : Passed
CPU supports SSE instructions : Passed
System Memory : 6073 MB : Passed
Hard Drive Space: 201.28 GB Free : Passed
OpenGL : Version 4.4 : Passed
DirectX : Version 11.0 or later : Passed
Desktop Mode : 32 bit colors : Passed
Card Type : GeForce GT 610/PCIe/SSE2 : Passed
Video Driver's Age : 2 months old : Passed
AGP Memory : 2047MB Free : Passed
Total Video Mem : 4042MB : Passed
Stencil Buffer : 8 Bits : Passed
Multi-Texturing : 8 Textures : Passed
Texture Compression DXT : Passed
Texture Combiners : Passed
Vertex Shaders : Version 3.0 : Passed
Pixel Shaders : Version 3.0 : Passed
Bump Mapping : Passed
Spherical Environment Mapping : Passed
Cubic Environment Mapping : Passed
Vertex Buffers : Passed
NVIDIA driver compatibility : Passed
Monitor: No compatability problems detected : Passed


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Extra Details Return from Tests
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System Memory : 6073 MB : System Memory : 6073MB (4223MB free)
Hard Drive Space: 201.28 GB Free : Drive C:\ : Total 448.50 GB Free 201.28 GB

OpenGL : Version 4.4 : OpenGL : Version : 4.4.0
Vendor : NVIDIA Corporation
Card : GeForce GT 610/PCIe/SSE2
DirectX : Version 11.0 or later : Driver : nvd3dum.dll
Description : NVIDIA GeForce GT 610
Product : (PRODUCT) Version : 18 SubVersion : 13 Build : 3182
Driver not WHQL signed
Desktop Mode : 32 bit colors : Desktop Mode : 1024x768 with 32 bit colors
Video Driver's Age : 2 months old : Contact your card manufacturer at www.nvidia.com for the latest drivers.
Card's driver date is Thu Nov 14 06:55:24 2013
File Version :9.18.13.3182
File Description :NVIDIA WDDM D3D Driver, Version 331.82
Product Version :9.18.13.3182
Total Video Mem : 4042MB : Total Video Mem : 4042MB
Stencil Buffer : 8 Bits : OpenGL stencil bits : 8
DirectX stencil bits : 8
Multi-Texturing : 8 Textures : OpenGL texture count : 32
DirectX texture count : 8
Vertex Shaders : Version 3.0 : OpenGL vertex shader : Version 3.0
DirectX vertex shader : Version 3.0
Pixel Shaders : Version 3.0 : OpenGL pixel shader : Version 3.0
DirectX pixel shader : Version 3.0

 

[shaneturner12]

That's interesting. It thinks that it can only find 4GB, but it's also reporting the full figure as well. That may be relating to Trainz being a 32-bit program though.

A note though - make sure you've also got the latest version of DirectX 9 installed, as Trainz does not use DirectX 11 (at least until the new version is released in December.

Shane

 

[trainz4]

I have WIN 8 so i cannot install DX9, is there anyway i can optimize performance? i still think i should be getting better frame rates than what i am now.

 

[shaneturner12]

Actually, you can. Use the redistributable method or my DXInstallHelper tool - both methods will update the DirectX 9 files that are already present.

Shane

 

[trainz4]

Well, I installed DX9 and to no avail. Should i really only be getting 13 FPS or less with my Current Set Up? The game runs WORSE if i turn the settings all the way down, but if i turn them all the way up it seems to fair better.

 

[clam1952]

GT 610 is a bottom of range entry level card. That's more than likely the problem.

From a review.

At the bottom of the 600 series retail stack is the GeForce GT 610, which is a rebadge of the GT 520. This means it’s either a GF119 GPU or cut-down GF108 GPU featuring a meager 48 CUDA Cores and a 64bit memory bus, albeit with a low 29W TDP as a result. This is truly a rock bottom card meant to be a cheap as possible upgrade for older computers, as even an Ivy Bridge HD4000 iGPU should be able to handily surpass it.

 

[trainz4]

what card would you recommend as a replacement? nothing to pricey but enough to kill most lag

 

[shaneturner12]

I should advise you that even upgrading the graphics card may not sort everything as it will still depend on your hard drive/SSD (depending on what you have - if you've got a SSD, it should be less of a problem).

Shane

 

[trainz4]

what doyou mean

 

[shaneturner12]

I'm referring to the fact that if you've got a slow hard drive in your system, this will account for some of the lag as it has to load assets from the hard drive/SSD into the system. If it's a SSD (solid state drive) then it shouldn't be a problem.

Shane

 

[trainz4]

How can i find out about the speed of the hard drive?

 

[shaneturner12]

You will need to check what kind of hard drive it is. Device Manager should help here, although the TrainzDiag report may also contain this information.

Shane

 

[trainz4]

Its a normal Drive, not a solid State