Trainz 2010 doesn't save proeprly

[Yakutsky]

Ok, I confess, I almost threw my keyboard through the window when I realized 8 hours of route building was lost.

It seems like my game doesn't save, it says it does but when I relload it (after a crash to desktop ofcourse) everything is as when I started building my route.

I'm serously done with this as it's happened to me a few times now, in the builder I can do quick drives and it's all fines, it's when I go back to desktop and reload my route it's all back to square one..... am I missing something? Or is this (another) glitch?

Thanks people.

 

[sniper297]

Vista or Windows 7?

 

[Yakutsky]

I'm running it on Vista.

 

[kenneth18278]

Need to "Run as Administrator". Go to your Trainz folder and R-click on every *.exe file, Compatability tab and tick the box at the bottom. Trainz won't save otherwise on Vista or 7 because of the UAC protection. When you've done that, you'll get a UAC dialog on opening, just click "yes" and you're good to go.

Regards

Ken

 

[Yakutsky]

Thanks Kenneth, but it now says I can't overwright my save files and need to type in a new name, when I do so it says I can't save either.... This is confusing me, never had this problem before.

 

[kamran]

it must have autosaved ur game so chk the route "autosave"in your route list and it will bring your route in condition where it was lastly saved

 

[shaneturner12]

Just a note - if you happen to be modifying a built-in route, or one not created by you, you will not be able to overwrite it.

Shane

 

[sniper297]

Never had Win7 or vista, but from what I understand it defaults to installing in the \Program Files (X86) folder, or some name similar to that, which is the exact place that you do not want a moddable game to go because the UAC guards everything in there like a junkyard dog. My advice is to reinstall somewhere else, start by logging in as administrator, run the installer as administrator, redirect the install path to C:\Auran\TS2010 or whatever, and set up the shortcut to run as administrator.

 

[Yakutsky]

Thanks guys, yeah I will need to reinstall it as the route was one I started myself, running as admin. I lost my route and the autosave is one from waaay before. This has put me off a bit as the game also crashes now pretty much all the time in driver mode. (fine in surveyer) I'll take your advide sniper297, reinstall it and see what happens. It seems that after the last patch the game became less stable.

 

[torino72]

Did you check in CMP to see if you have files in Open for Edit status that are unnamed but have your Trainz ID/user number as the kuid number? If so then those are your attempts to save route or session changes. The one with the largest kuid number is the latest save. I'm also having problems with 2010 not wanting to open assets for edit or commit them in CMP, and/or save from Surveyor. I get a lot of messages that in Surveyor that say that I cannot overwrite read only files. I've found that if I keep trying to save, sometimes 7 to 10 times, that it will finally save them.

 

[sniper297]

Way I understand it is something like this;
Create new route named coolroute, save. Windows XP creates a new file in C:\Program Files\Auran\TS2010\UserData\HASH(something) \coolroute. Windows 7 or Vista creates a new file in C:\Secret Location\Temp\Auran\TS2010\UserData\HASH(something) \coolroute. Exit the program, XP doesn't do anything in particular. Vista / win7 says "oh, you created a new file? I'll allow it, but I'm watching you!" Then it writes the file into C:\Program Files (X86)\Auran\TS2010\UserData\HASH(something) \coolroute. Now the next time you edit and save the route, it again is saved to C:\Secret Location\Temp\Auran\TS2010\UserData\HASH(something) \coolroute. You can edit further, create a session and run around exploring the route, as long as you keep Trainz running. When you shut Trainz down, however, that UAC copies any NEW files from C:\Secret Location\temp to C:\Program Files (X86) but when it finds your new route file trying to overwrite the old route file, it says "Oh, no you don't!" and just deletes the new file keeping the original safe.

Vista / Win7 was really designed to stop office drones from screwing up their workstations, costing the company money when the tech guys have to restore spreadsheet and Word programs. It really is not very good for home systems that only have one user, so those who know what they're doing with Vista / Win7 usually set it up so they always log in as administrator and they disable UAC so they don't have to fight with it.

 

[Yakutsky]

Yes I do have one in "open for edit" + it says it has faulty dependencies. Torino72, that's exactly the same problem I'm having... aside from the original problem it tells me I cannot overwrite read only files.

 

[schweitzerdude]

Once you get all the "save" problems solved based on the advice given here, you also need to get autosave working reliably. I seem to remember when I first installed TS2010, autosave didn't work properly. I am now patched to build 44088 (not the newest patch, but at 44088 autosave works reliably so I'm sure even newer patches will also autosave properly). I set autosave to save every 15 minutes. I have crashed at least a dozen times in the past year and have never lost more than 15 minutes of work.