Thoughts on the DLS problems and the effects on the end user

Agreed. I have SP1 for beta testing others' routes but otherwise I'm sitting pretty on 49922.
Only inconvenience was not being able to use the DLS this weekend but otherwise my Trainz was chugging along just fine.

DRM is ok if it does not pose to the user an inconvenience; you can do all the checking you want, but you better not bother me when I want to play.
 
I got caught with a 4000+ asset, 1 hour long validation last night I wasn't happy about. I thought if the Planet Auran page came up then I was OK, but that shot that theory out of the water.

Shane, does your Internet checking program check the DRM server? If so, I'm going to start running that before I start Trainz. If I see that the DRM server is down, I'm turning off my internet. That seems to stem the validation process.

Andrew
 
Just used my network monitoring stuff on 49922 and then 61388 with and without DLC

Just for a basic start launcher then Content Manager

49922 connects with 174.121.103.202 Auran.com

61388 both with and without DLC connects with
174.121.103.202 Auran.com
And very briefly with
108.168.130.242 itrainz.auran.com this I am presuming is the DRM server.

I would suggest that if this is so, a simple ping 108.168.130.242 would check it's working.
 
clam1952 said:
Just used my network monitoring stuff on 49922 and then 61388 with and without DLC

Just for a basic start launcher then Content Manager

49922 connects with 174.121.103.202 Auran.com

61388 both with and without DLC connects with
174.121.103.202 Auran.com
And very briefly with
108.168.130.242 itrainz.auran.com this I am presuming is the DRM server.

I would suggest that if this is so, a simple ping 108.168.130.242 would check it's working.
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Thank you for investigating this. I will definitely do this in the future.

For Shane: Maybe you can include this server in your IP status check.

Here is my confirmation of the 108.168.130.242 server:

C:\Users\John\Desktop\Desktop Apps>nslookup itrainz.auran
Server: www.asusnetwork.net
Address: 192.168.181.1
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: itrainz.auran.com
Address: 108.168.130.242

John
 
I've just checked version 2.1 (the latest version) of my PC Information Application - this does include itrainz.auran.com as one of it's checks using the Networking Component (which is under the Check your Connection option in the Utilities menu.

Here's a copy of my latest results from the tool:

PC Information Report - Networking Component
Generated using PC Information Application by Shane Turner
Network Available: YES
Connection Test: Google
PING TESTS
Packet 1: RECEIVED from 74.125.230.102 (google.com) - Roundtrip time:27
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 74.125.230.102 (google.com) - Roundtrip time:27
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 74.125.230.102 (google.com) - Roundtrip time:28
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 74.125.230.102 (google.com) - Roundtrip time:29
Summary: 4 Packets Received - 100% Received
Connection to google.com SUCCESSFUL

Connection Test: www.auran.com
PING TESTS
Packet 1: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.202 (auran.com) - Roundtrip time:138
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.202 (auran.com) - Roundtrip time:138
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.202 (auran.com) - Roundtrip time:138
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.202 (auran.com) - Roundtrip time:138
Summary: 4 Packets Received - 100% Received
Connection to auran.com SUCCESSFUL

Connection Test: Free DLS Server
PING TESTS
Packet 1: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.179 (files.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:141
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.179 (files.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:140
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.179 (files.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:141
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.179 (files.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:139
Summary: 4 Packets Received - 100% Received
Connection to free Auran DLS server SUCCESSFUL

Connection Test: Firstclass DLS server
PING TESTS
Packet 1: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.178 (firstclass.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:138
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.178 (firstclass.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:137
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.178 (firstclass.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:139
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 174.121.103.178 (firstclass.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:242
Summary: 4Packets Received - 100% Received
Connection to Firstclass Auran DLS server SUCCESSFUL

Connection Test: N3V ITrainz/Multiplayer server
PING TESTS
Packet 1: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:466
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:446
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:447
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:391
Summary: 4Packets Received - 100% Received
Connection to N3V Itrainz/Multiplayer server SUCCESSFUL

End of Test

I did notice a very large roundtrip time on the ITrainz server though during the latest test.

Shane
 
OK, thank you for checking Shane.

Packet 1: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:466
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:446
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:447
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (itrainz.auran.com) - Roundtrip time:391

When did the test start? Yesterday? :)

That is wicked. No wonder some people are still having problems.

Here's the results of my ping to the same IP address:

C:\Users\John\Desktop\Desktop Apps>ping 108.168.130.242
Pinging 108.168.130.242 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=117
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=117
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=117
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=65ms TTL=117
Ping statistics for 108.168.130.242:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 65ms, Maximum = 66ms, Average = 65ms

Not quite as bad since the server is about 2800 miles from me, or a wee bit closer than you are.

John
 
That would explain things a bit. Perhaps I should get users that are still affected to run their own ping test on that server and see what the results are like.

Shane

P.S. Have you also got version 2.1 of my PC Information Application?

EDIT: I've just run another test and the figures for the ITrainz server are now in the ~130ms range.
 
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shaneturner12 said:
That would explain things a bit. Perhaps I should get users that are still affected to run their own ping test on that server and see what the results are like.

Shane

P.S. Have you also got version 2.1 of my PC Information Application?

EDIT: I've just run another test and the figures for the ITrainz server are now in the ~130ms range.
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I don't have the latest. I'll go download it now.

That's a good idea. This would confirm whether it's worth it for them to try to connect.

John
 
I did notice when the servers were off again earlier, I was able to ping the IP's but not the addresses.
 
I have v2.1 of the utility but it does not include:

Connection Test: N3V ITrainz/Multiplayer server.

Edit - I have just re-downloaded v2.1 from your page and it does now have the extra test.

My test shows:

Packet 1: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) - Roundtrip time:124
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) - Roundtrip time:129
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) - Roundtrip time:124
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) - Roundtrip time:125
Summary: 4Packets Received - 100% Received
Connection to N3V Itrainz/Multiplayer server SUCCESSFUL
 
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It should do. Let me check my version (which I downloaded from the site not long ago).

Shane

EDIT: Try re-downloading the application, as mine definitely contains that test.
 
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I did notice your edit after I replied - looks like your figures are similar to mine (the second test I did that is). Looks like it's also using one of the Softlayer reverse addresses as well.

Shane
 
Here's my ping test:

Code: 
C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping 108.168.130.242

Pinging 108.168.130.242 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=247
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=247
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=48ms TTL=247
Reply from 108.168.130.242: bytes=32 time=49ms TTL=247

Ping statistics for 108.168.130.242:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 48ms, Maximum = 49ms, Average = 48ms

Let me download Shane's utility again and try that. Does all this mean the server is up again and Trainz will re-validate/re-enable the assets it took away?
 
Here we go...

Code: 
Connection Test: N3V ITrainz/Multiplayer server
PING TESTS
Packet 1: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) -  Roundtrip time:48
Packet 2: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) -  Roundtrip time:48
Packet 3: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) -  Roundtrip time:48
Packet 4: RECEIVED from 108.168.130.242 (108.168.130.242-static.reverse.softlayer.com) -  Roundtrip time:49
Summary: 4Packets Received - 100% Received
Connection to N3V Itrainz/Multiplayer server SUCCESSFUL

I'm going to start up CM 3.7 and see what happens. I can always go to dinner if it's going to validate for a while! :p
 
Well, no validations. I guess it's working because I can see and place the Nickel Plate Locos and caboose in Surveyor along with the CNJ Blue Comet Locos. I believe those are N3Vs payware, right?

Edit: Did the same with the Coronation Scot. Success! :wave:
 
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