The greatest additions/revamped workings/changes to Trainz in the last few years

[davesnow]

Several things come to mind when I wrote that title.

1. First and Foremost... being able to switch from driver to surveyor and back with just a click or two. This has really made my route building 1000% better!

2. I like the choice of pasting OVER an area or pasting INTO an area. This has been a great addition.

3. Of course, I like the ability to paint grass and weeds and stuff.

4. Speedtrees, Shadows and Reflections. Can't deny these haven't been a wonderful addition.

5. The new Surveyor. I've been shy about diving into this, but I know when I do, I'll love it. All the comments about it here on the forum have been mostly positive.

Just some of my thoughts...

Dave

 

[JCitron]

We can add in the tool we all can't live without:

The Bulk Update Replace tool.

We can update most anything and now with the more recent feature since TRS19, the ability to place textures under splines. This makes adding ballast under tracks much easier.

 

[davesnow]

We can add in the tool we all can't live without:

The Bulk Update Replace tool.

We can update most anything and now with the more recent feature since TRS19, the ability to place textures under splines. This makes adding ballast under tracks much easier.

You're darn right!

 

[schweitzerdude]

I agree with the examples given.

The new capabilities in Surveyor 2.0 contain some of my favorites:
1. Being able to select a group of objects/splines and moving the entire group to a different location, even if it's just 3m to the right. What a time-saver.
2. Unlimited size of terrain/texture tool.
3. Scrapbook, although there are some enhancements needed to make it easier to find scrapbook items.

 

[JCitron]

I agree with the examples given.

The new capabilities in Surveyor 2.0 contain some of my favorites:
1. Being able to select a group of objects/splines and moving the entire group to a different location, even if it's just 3m to the right. What a time-saver.
2. Unlimited size of terrain/texture tool.
3. Scrapbook, although there are some enhancements needed to make it easier to find scrapbook items.

Absolutely!

The ability to create or delete multiple baseboards too is a real timesaver. We have to remember to select and delete the contents first due to pieces being left over only to float in space forever.

 

[boleyd]

Is it a timesaver?

With all of the new complex functions in "trainz" the previous message illustrates a missing element in the program. Warnings and suggestions that if you do step-A there could be consequences, and here is the proper process. Consequences of mistakes are often not immediately known. Later in your process you hit a big issue and its solution is a mystery. The customer's only recourse is to spend time trying various steps or coming to the forum and relying on the experiences of its members to offer a solution. A simple warning message would save a customer lots of their precious time.. It is called Error and Warning messages, Costly programming time with no way to reveal any "dollar benefit". How much does it cost for a "Did You Delete Baseboard Contents?" message??

 

[martinvk]

Sounds like a simple error message routine but consider all the possible consequences, not just one step later but many steps later. And then all the time needed to click through all those "are you sure" warnings. We've got a pretty good undo now so if the action was not too far in the past, it can still be undone if needed.

 

[JCitron]

Yes, the ability to undo deleted baseboards too in Surveyor 2.0 is a really added bonus.

 

[mikeman]

Several things come to mind when I wrote that title.

1. First and Foremost... being able to switch from driver to surveyor and back with just a click or two. This has really made my route building 1000% better!

2. I like the choice of pasting OVER an area or pasting INTO an area. This has been a great addition.

3. Of course, I like the ability to paint grass and weeds and stuff.

4. Speedtrees, Shadows and Reflections. Can't deny these haven't been a wonderful addition.

5. The new Surveyor. I've been shy about diving into this, but I know when I do, I'll love it. All the comments about it here on the forum have been mostly positive.

Just some of my thoughts...

Dave

Hey Dave, I don't know if this will work for you but approach medium did a youtube video recently using the newish surveyor 2.0 and for whatever reason watching him using and going over the reasoning during the video really clicked something for me and I now love using it. I really struggled prior to that trying to use it. If you decide to jump it you might give that video a shot.

 

[JimDep]

Is this new surveyor by subscription only ?

 

[JCitron]

Is this new surveyor by subscription only ?

It's in TRS22 Platinum as well, Jim.

 

[davesnow]

When I re-installed TRS2019 ( after that big episode of uninstalling TANE) I got Surveyor 2.0 also. The desktop Icon of TRS2019 says 2022. I don't know what's going on with that, but Uninstalling TANE really gave me a ton of headaches. That's why I started that post "Don't Uninstall TANE."

 

[Forester1]

What is the build number on your launch window Dave? 117009 was the last for TRS19

 

[davesnow]

What is the build number on your launch window Dave? 117009 was the last for TRS19

TRS 2019: 116492
TRS2022: 122411

When I "check for updates" on both versions it says there is no update available at this time.

 

[Forester1]

Geez, unfortunately when I try to look up BUILD numbers, I get VERSION numbers. Even the wiki doesn't give actual BUILD numbers. Not helpful!

But the installers I have indicate TRS19 Platinum SP4 was 114800 and of course SP5 is 117009.

I did find that 116492 is a TRS22 build There is a wiki page, but not the one you get if you google:

TRS22 - Trainz Railroad Simulator 2022 and Trainz Plus​

Trainz Railroad Simulator 2022 & Trainz+
The following builds exist for TRS22 and Trainz Plus. Where patches are available, these are noted beside the build number.

Build Number	Patches available	Build description
Build 115628	auto-patch to 116492	Beta release version (Windows)
Build 115635		Standard Edition version (MAC)
Build 115985		Standard Edition version (Windows)
Build 116492	auto-patch to 117118	Early Access (Windows)

 

[1611mac]

Here is what I have in my note file. I don't guarantee it accurate. It unedited straight from my own notes.
LINKS won't work. They are links to the "release post" in the beta forums. I didn't code them for this post but I have them if needed. (or search forum for the build number in beta forums)
My non guaranteed accurate notes follow (for reference only

SP4 PUBLIC RELEASE 4.9
114800 4.9 10/13/21 link
114800 is release showing in MyTrainz as "current" '19 (date of this note 8/13/22)

19 19 19 "SP5" beta - (not now recognized as official 19 release since TrainzPlus release?)
115546 5.0 11/25/21 link
115653 5.0 11/30/21 link
115943 5.0 12/20/21 link
116009 5.0 12/23/21 link
116210 5.0 1/20/22 link
116313 5.0 1/29/22 link "SP5 Final RC"
116453 5.0 2/17/22 link "Final Final SP RC"
116678 5.0 2/28/22 <<< no PLUS
117009 3/14/22 Trainz Platinum Edition - New Plus conv to TraizPlus?


22 22 22 22 22 22 and 22 22 22 22 22 22 beta________________________________________________________________________________
TRS22 and 22 BETA AND RETAIL (plus busted out to separate product)
115373 5.0 11/18.21 link 19 to 22 .exe
115683 5.0 11/26/21 link Surveyor 2.0 (115501 >115683)
115628 5.0 11/30/21 link
115926 5.0 12/18/21 link
115985 5.0 12/22/21 link
116069 5.0 01/14/22 link
116199 5.0 01/20/22 link
116233 5.0 01/21/22 link
116243 5.0 01/24/22 link
116271 5.0 01/25/22 link
116492 5.0 02/11/22 link pre-release
116912 5.1 03/08/22 link < new 5.1
117092 5.1 03/24/22 link
1172971 5.1 (invalid entry)
117424 5.1 04/22/22 link
117464 5.1 04/27/22 link
117513 5.1 05/03/22
117540 5.1 05/05/22
117655 5.1 05/27/22 link <--- Trainz 22 Retail TRS22 Retail Edition

 

[pware]

Even the wiki doesn't give actual BUILD numbers.

You will find what you seek on the Wiki at Build_Numbers

 

[boleyd]

I Have 123315 which is not listed. It is titled as Trainz+. with the Trainz+ title page.
No update is available according to the installer.
I have had one update to it, in the past.
It runs routes ok.
Given its odd status I am concerned that even removing it might
have extended effects.

 

[pware]

I Have 123315 which is not listed. It is titled as Trainz+. with the Trainz+ title page.

123315 is a beta version of Trainz Plus. The term RELEASE ASSERTIONS appears in front of the build number indicating that it is a beta. The wiki does not list the betas, only the retail releases.

 

[UnionPacificFan1005]

Several things come to mind when I wrote that title.

1. First and Foremost... being able to switch from driver to surveyor and back with just a click or two. This has really made my route building 1000% better!

2. I like the choice of pasting OVER an area or pasting INTO an area. This has been a great addition.

3. Of course, I like the ability to paint grass and weeds and stuff.

4. Speedtrees, Shadows and Reflections. Can't deny these haven't been a wonderful addition.

5. The new Surveyor. I've been shy about diving into this, but I know when I do, I'll love it. All the comments about it here on the forum have been mostly positive.

Just some of my thoughts...

Dave

I have to say, and this is a tough one, I've got to hand it to parallax textures. As someone who jumped from using T:ANE to TRS22 I was shocked by how much the parallax textures improved the routes I used. It just brings a level of realism that wasn't present before.