T:ANE nervous breakdown

[bnsfc]

I have no idea what started it but TANE seems to be having a nervous breakdown. Surveyor (or what ever they call it now) works fine. but when I try to use driver, I cant drive anything since no actually drivers appear. None of the driver tabs or options are around, the only think I can see is the train list from surveyor. Its also randomly uninstalling content. I have tried a database rebuilt and it didn't help. Any ideas?

 

[JCitron]

When you did a database rebuild, did you check your settings to ensure you have all your details in there?

If T:ANE has a nervous breakdown, or causes you to have one, it will eat the settings and forget what you have installed. You need to put your settings back in again like when you first setup the program.

John

 

[bnsfc]

The settings where unchanged. Im going to try and rebuild it again, see if I get a different result.

 

[JCitron]

The settings where unchanged. Im going to try and rebuild it again, see if I get a different result.

That's good!

Do that DBR and let it run afterwards as it validates your installation. You may see missing dependencies, and faulty dependencies afterwards. Don't have a nervous breakdown! Simply highlight the assets, right-click, and choose view errors and warnings. These errors should disappear. You may have some missing content previously, which you should be aware of already so don't panic if this doesn't disappear in the end.

John

 

[bnsfc]

After a second rebuild nothing is changed. It seems like driver and surveyor have tried to merge, since while i'm in driver, I can place and delete trains on the layout.

 

[JCitron]

After a second rebuild nothing is changed. It seems like driver and surveyor have tried to merge, since while i'm in driver, I can place and delete trains on the layout.

This is another issue altogether. This has something to do with layers and it's somewhat confusing to explain.

Routes and Sessions can coexist on what are called layers. There are somethings which are inherently route-centric, meaning grass, trees, buildings, tracks, etc. which have to exist on the route layer, while other things such as trains, scripts, and configurations, which can change so are put on a session layer.

When you save, you are asked to save a session too. In most cases, you will save a default session and overwrite the present one with a new version. These will contain some settings which are needed for both routes and sessions but can change.

Now this is where the confusion comes in, and we've all made this error. When you open up a route in Surveyor you are opening the route. When you open up a Session in the view and edit sessions part of the screen, you have to hit the View Sessions for this, both look the same. The issue is you can edit the route while in the session, just the same as you can in the route its self. You will get a warning first about making some changes and have to click a confirm box, but you can do it. The problem is now you have session stuff mixed with route stuff, and things can get somewhat messy.

To get around this, you can merge sessions into routes or the other way around. In general we recommend sessions into routes, which is done by clicking on the layers-pullout on the right side. (It looks like a stack of paper), and then choosing merge. Just like other merge-options, you are given a from to and choose who you want to place where. Once this is done, you will now have session information in on the route completely so such things as switch machines and signals don't disappear from your routes while in driver.

I hope I explained this. There's probably some stuff I left out which others will pick up and fill in for us.

John

 

[bnsfc]

I tried what you suggested. it hasn't helped. moreover, it doesn't sound like what's happening to me, since this is happening will all my sessions, not just the ones made after this started happening. the only tab I have while in "driver" is the trains tab. if I could figure out where the screen shots where stored I would show you one.

 

[JCitron]

To post an image, you need to use a hosting site like www.hostthenpost.org

You upload the pic, an post the link here.

I agree we might be talking about two different things.

 

[bnsfc]

no I mean I don't know where the screen shots are after you take them in game. I don't know where to find them.

EDIT: so I tried to capture a screen shot and you cant see the problems in it. basically when I'm in driver the top bar is normal but the drivers/train list doesn't appear and I have the train tab from surveyor that I can open and close, place and delete trains ext.

 

[JCitron]

no I mean I don't know where the screen shots are after you take them in game. I don't know where to find them.

EDIT: so I tried to capture a screen shot and you cant see the problems in it. basically when I'm in driver the top bar is normal but the drivers/train list doesn't appear and I have the train tab from surveyor that I can open and close, place and delete trains ext.

Okay... We took the wrong branch here. I must be dense... Simple Open up the folder where your T:ANE content is. If you did a default install it's located in C:\Users\your username\App Data\Local\N3V Games\etc.

There will be a Screenshots folder.

You may need to show hidden files and folders to see this path.

From what you are describing, without a picture I can't be for sure, you are now seeing the new Quick Drive option.

Unless you have a pre-created session, like you can do in TRS2006 and other versions, this is all you'll get. Open up that tab and place a train, with an engine or two and you can drive.

If you saved a session using Edit/Create sessions, you can setup drivers with commands and then save that, you will see this listed for you to use.

I think this is what you are asking, hopefully I got it right this time...

John

 

[bnsfc]

Hm. well, I went into the quick drive and just added a driver, and it seems to work now. but the trains tab from surveyor is still there. did the new patch add this so you can just add rolling stock on the fly?

 

[SuperFudd]

Yep. Exactly.