Short Miles-Long Miles

torino72

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I’ve been doing some route creation and modifications recently in 2006. I’ve noticed this pertaining to miles. I can measure a straight track using the Surveyor ruler function and mark mile points precisely along the track. I can then run a loco using the custom HUD from mile point to mile point. The custom HUD calculates the mileage at between .91 and .92 miles between mile points. The custom HUDs I’ve used are the one from Auran and a cloned/modified version called MC Custom HUD V2. I like using these because they show miles traveled (well, more or less), current grade, and the speed limit at the next speed sign. The V2 also shows distance/name to the next junction and next signal. Both show ODO readings of between .91 and .92 miles between mileposts. I am assuming the ruler in Surveyor to be more accurate at 5280ft = 1 mile. Does anyone know for sure and/or is there a custom HUD that measures 1 mile per 5280ft?

I’ve also noticed on many routes (including payware routes) that the distance between mile markers varies considerably, sometimes by over 1000ft. I’m not that much of a purist so I can live with this. I’ve also noticed in timetables they often list long and short miles. For example, a BNSF timetable dated Dec, 2007 for the Kootenai River Sub lists the distance between MP 1307 and 1308 as 13077 ft, between MP1337 and 1338 at 9684 ft, and between MP1359 and 1360 as 4625 ft. They also list test mile locations where I assume a mile is actually 5280 ft. I guess these are for testing the accuracy of speedometers and similar purposes. So, it seems long and short miles are prototypical for North American railroading. Which makes me wonder about those mile markers along our interstate highways.
 
Place a length of track a great length longer, along a 1 mile Trainz ruler.

Place a "3000Ton Loaded Coal" (or similar), until it overflows that track length.

Trim down the train size to 1 mile in length (you can put a brightly colored dissimilar car on each end to show the ends). Save as a "New Consist" naming it @ "5280' Train".

Using that train, or repeated trains of that new consist, all hooked together, you can have accurate mile measurements.
 
What a great saving time and practical tip ! Thank you very much for that. You should post it in the tip forum if it is not already done :Y: That makes my day.

Rail4Pete
 
A scale mile train IS a big timesaver, as it's easy for putting out mileposts. I have even done a 4x scale mile train and an 8x one as well for layouts I will use a 4x or 8x fast clock.
 
The ruler in TS2006 (and the custom HUD as well) are not terribly accurate when using Imperial measurements. As I recall, the ruler was fixed in TC3, and the custom HUD was fixed in TS2009. If you need accuracy in older versions of Trainz, your best bet is to use the metric measurements.
 
The rulers are not all that accurate in TRS2006 if the imperial units are selected. If you measure the 720m baseboard with the imperial ruler its 2400 ft instead of 2362 ft. With the metric ruler it's 720m. Someone used 40 in to a meter instead of the more accurate 39.37 in when they programmed the ruler object. It reads about 2% too long when imperial units are selected.

Your errors are bigger than that so as Pencil42 notes the HUD also has errors in TRS2006. I can only second the advice to use metric measure if the difference is a concern for you. Internally in the game everything is kept in metric units.

I've used metric input since I discovered the error back in UTC days. Just means most of the ref data I have needs to be converted when I use it. I still do that now even after they corrected it.

In driver though I always select imperial units. For some things I'm too old to change.

Bob Pearson
 
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Thanks, Cascaderailroad

Measuring miles with an actual train works very well. I tried this by placing a train 1 mile (1609 meters) long on a straight track segment measured at 1609 meters. I then used this to measure between several mile points I had set using the Imperial ruler measurements. On average, the ruler measurements were about 170 feet short of a mile. The mile long train is both quicker and more accurate, especially since most track segments are not laid in straight lines. Thanks for this tip.
 
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