49922, and stop.
Setting Aside TS2012 - Stutters and Pausing
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I loaded a separate copy of TS2012 49922. Still had stutters just using standard builtin routes. I give up. I will play with Trainz stuff but the total lack of interest on the part of the vendor about this issue is annoying. Fortunately I still have Lockheed Martin P3D, which is a professionally supported simulator.
YES!, too bad we lost that (no padlocks) with TRS12 which has better graphics.
Yep, SP1 SpeedTree Vanish Fix a failure. SP1 is a major cause of stutter. SP1 Tile Abnormality and short draw is a nasty side effect. SP1 has major issues even after supposed fixes ruining TS12 IMHO. I have a NvidiaGTX 660 2GB DDR5 video card that plays other major games flawlessly and yet TS12 SP1 runs like crap. N3V needs to redo the game engine at this stage and start all over with coding for me to support buying another version.
shaneturner12
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Firstly, I cannot see N3V re-doing the coding from scratch or changing game engine.
Secondly, have any of you with stutter issues checked your Jetlog file lately? It may be a script error (causing a stack dump) that's causing it.
Shane
Secondly, have any of you with stutter issues checked your Jetlog file lately? It may be a script error (causing a stack dump) that's causing it.
Shane
Well actually P3D is FSX that has been worked on a bit to eliminate some of the bugs and problems in FSX. It's no pot of gold either. If you want something that actually flies like a real aircraft ( I am a licensed pilot) give MS Flight a whirl. I have flown sims that cost around $20 million dollars ( Airline Level D sims in Airline Training centers) and MS Flight is pretty realistic. Shame MS dropped it cause it didn't have enough bells and whistles for the PC sim addicts.
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George I cringe when I see some of the stuff the average Joe Six-Pack is supposed to know about PCs. Those "in the know" toss terms around like confetti. Given the context in which they use them it is doubtful they fully understand their meaning and their role in the PC. The problem is that poor ole Joe Six-Pack does not have enough info to even judge the stuff you see on the Internet. Fortunately, this is only temporary since the new generation are up to speed with the stuff. They know little about the innards but have an idea what the stuff is supposed to do and how it does it.
I can understand most computer languages but I have no desire to waste my time debugging a script. No that is not a prescription.
So the goofy fiddling with options, PC settings, and spending money are what you are expected to do. These little gaming companies simply will not interact with the customers except on rare occasions. Today's PC population now buys into this "self-support" troubleshooting and it is dirt cheap for the vendor. In the very old days there were actually humans that functioned as customer support. But by training the public the free support model is now cast.
I can't disagree here either, Dick and I've used computers and technology since the early 1980s. Sadly, it seems though that this is the way things are in general and they're getting more complicated every day. I had to ask my 13 year old nephew how to install an application on my 'Droid.
I suppose the younger generation has a lot of this built-in since they're lived with it from the time they were born. For the rest of us it's an ongoing learning of newer stuff. What we don't need though is the stuff not to work just for the sake of not working, this only adds to our frustrations especially for those with little pleasure time to begin with.
John
I suppose the younger generation has a lot of this built-in since they're lived with it from the time they were born. For the rest of us it's an ongoing learning of newer stuff. What we don't need though is the stuff not to work just for the sake of not working, this only adds to our frustrations especially for those with little pleasure time to begin with.
John
Lol. So have I, but I disagree absolutely with the required outcome. Got an Apple ][+ when I was 9 or 10. Back then, you pretty much had to learn to learn the ins and outs, and code your own stuff, because not much existed and what little did was extremely expensive, if you could even get it.
The hardware field had the same problem. Want a microcontroller? Better develop one yourself and code for it A to Z. Even stamps and Arduino require you to know what you're doing.
The advent of Windows, pardon my expression, dumbed-down computers for the masses, but never did away with the need for one to learn a lot about them to get them to do what they want lest they beholden to craptastic applications that do some things, and not always correctly, but probably not what you always want or need.
By extension, I guess I learned to create content for Trainz because there wasn't enough that looked/did what I want.
Be grateful you can even do this, which you generally can't in the incredibly locked-down user-unfriendly mobile environment.
The hardware field had the same problem. Want a microcontroller? Better develop one yourself and code for it A to Z. Even stamps and Arduino require you to know what you're doing.
The advent of Windows, pardon my expression, dumbed-down computers for the masses, but never did away with the need for one to learn a lot about them to get them to do what they want lest they beholden to craptastic applications that do some things, and not always correctly, but probably not what you always want or need.
By extension, I guess I learned to create content for Trainz because there wasn't enough that looked/did what I want.
Be grateful you can even do this, which you generally can't in the incredibly locked-down user-unfriendly mobile environment.
I agree too, but there are some things now that are beginning to 'escape' my abilities. It's scary but it's happening faster than I can keep up. Perhaps it's my brain that's getting slower - I went for some tests on this and I'm awaiting the results, but there are days when the new stuff makes my head spin trying to figure it out. Let's face it, I'm getting older I suppose and I don't want to admit it.
I came from the olden days, although I was much older. I was a teenager when the Apple ][ came out, but got an Atari 800 instead. For some reason I like Atari better, go figure. Eventually I was writing games in BASIC and learning programming. After that I was using CP/M on another PC and taking programming classes in Z-80 Assembly language. Who would've thought that would ever be useful, but it was for a short time. It was a great learning experience, and this is what made computers fun and challenging. I wanted a program to use as a check book balancer, I wrote it in C-BASIC - a compiled basic that ran on CP/M machines. I used WordStar instead of the line editor (an early version of Edlin) because it was easier to format the code. Today, we have that push-n-click interface with pretty buttons and images which mask a lot of the technical stuff needed. It's amazing how much code goes into a single mouse click!
I remember the hardware days very well. That was my realm being a hardware technician. I was building my own amplifiers and other equipment once I took some engineering classes. With the advent of surface-mounting and throw-away electronics, the idea of fixing anything is now just a fleeting thought. The components are so small that it's impossible to see them on the boards sometimes.
There are days when I wish we were still using video terminals and dial-up networks at 300 Baud. It was so much easier and I think fun because everyone was sharing information openly without lawyers breathing IP this and IP that.
John
It's a whole lot easier if you never uninstall it! Why bother with the size of today's hard drives?
To be specific, there are two methods:
1) find all the ja's in TC3 and copy them to a \temp local folder one level up. Mine is still (C:\Auran) Check their names against .ja's in the \World folder in TRS2006. Any name collisions need renamed, I'd rename them all a bit as a matter of course. Prefix or suffix with TC3 to keep your head straight in two years!<G>. Trainz.ja and Core.ja should be in the TRS2006 local root folder. You're putting the transplants into \World, so shouldn't break anything.
Move those into the \World folder on TRS2006. Break the assets.tdx and \assets.bku by renaming... assets.tdx.old and \assets.bku.old
Run CMP locally from in \bin. It will do it's own EDR in effect, and rebuild the database. If you have a lot of local content, go out to dinner or whatever. When it's done cranking, that Ugly TC3 screen will be gone.
Second method:
Open all dependent assets for editting in the route what you're interested in porting AND Duck, as the desktop launches a gazillion explorer windows, or take them ten at time, then recommit to make a \local folder copy.
Repeat as needed, then import the \local folder with all that new content from TC3\local.
Problem, I've never done this, but did with Trainz Driver (V2.5). Went forward with other stuff to TRS2009, so I expect TC3 content will give a warning "unknown' Trainz-build tag number or some such wording. Could get a few thousand of those! Don't know how it's programmed. I'd back up TRS2006 then try this. Play it safe. TC3 is version 2.8, TRS2006-SP1 is version 2.6.
Caution, if copying directories, need to set folder settings to show hidden and systems folders before copying.
One other thing you could do with the first method would be to drop the build tag to 2.6 using a Global Search and Replace (GSAR) tool: either freeware Notepad++ (programmers text editor) or ReplaceText2.2 and changing everything in every config.txt file in \editing... for example I fixed seven identical errors in train stations off the DLS that way last night... one tag value didn't have the end number in the second passenger queues. Works. ReplaceText can set a test, 2nd test, post string test kind of 'certain logic', and then and only then change a field/value. It was purpose built to change all the web pages on a website in one quick edit. It's more complicated to understand and implement a search, but once set up and tested, that sort of error can be fixed without manually opening a config.txt file. Both good choices here, but a learning curve.
Before any GSAR... I just safe myself -- by copying files to /editing2 as a temporary backup. If the GSAR fails, I can just copy over the one's goofed up. Use Kdiff3 to test a few against the backup. It will actually let you compare three files against one another if that rare need occurs; in this case just need do the two, as an option. If only the line you wanted (Trainz-build) changed, you're golden.
You can also pre-test of course to see if any other lines in any file have "2.8" using Notepadd++ too. Otherwise, it will GSAR and do a whole directory about as fast as you can snap your fingers. // Frank
I basically ignored computers until I was 40 years old. Sometimes I wish I still were. I know what I know only out of necessity and just osmosis, I definitely am not an enthusiast or tinkerer. As far as today's newfangled gadgets, I will keep ignoring them. I don't even own a smartphone. I'm content to live out my days in luddism.
You're not alone there and I don't blame you at all for saying that. Even I don't want a smartphone; I'm only considering a gaming computer so I can keep going with Trainz. I'm much more content to deal with fixing and customizing model trains when it comes to technology.
The only reason I had this computer built was to get back into Trainz essentially. When my previous pc died I used my wife's old laptop, which I despised, it had Vista so I hated it even more, but it did the essentials of email and other routine tasks. I used that for almost 2 years until I decided to get back into the game , as it were.
Boc61,
I happened to "fall" into the computer world myself about 35 years ago. I had a fascination with them when I was younger, but that's as far as it went because I was much more interested in music. When I graduated from high school, I had no money for college. My dad "saved" money for me so I had about $500. This was supposed to be my first year's tuition like he had back in 1956! The problem was I needed $5,000 for the first year back then. How times have changed even more, given how much even that has gone up! Anyway, I ended up assembling circuit boards with my intention of working for a year. I even had my acceptance into NECofM all set, except for my audition which I was working on. Well the company made me an offer to send me to school for electronics so I went against my passion and there I stayed. Those were the fun days, though. Everyone, no matter who you talked to in the technical world, was willing to help - to share their knowledge. Things were quite different.
So it happened... I ended up fixing the company's early computers. They were CP/M based machines with big floppy drives. I needed to repair floppy drive circuits so I learned to format drives. Testing other things required running programs, and then it all clicked together. Those were the fun days...
Would I do this again today? Probably not. It's not the same not only with the tiny technology which can't be repaired, but also because the attitude of the technologists. Today everyone is afraid of losing some big secret, and in reality not much has changed from before.
I too could really give less than a fart when it comes to smart phones. I was issued a Blackberry Curve 3 years ago by Oracle. I didn't want it and today I use it only as a phone. I can barely see the keys to type on it - they're about the size of a ladybug if we're lucky. These little beasts are too complicated for what we need. Why would anyone want to run programs on something that small? I have a 'Droid tablet I got last year. I installed Trainz Driver and Trainz for the 'Droid on it. To be honest it's the most awkward thing to try to do anything on and the performance is awful. Perhaps if I was 13, I could deal with the interface of these devices, but geeze ever feel left out of a world you've been in for nearly 35 years?
John
I happened to "fall" into the computer world myself about 35 years ago. I had a fascination with them when I was younger, but that's as far as it went because I was much more interested in music. When I graduated from high school, I had no money for college. My dad "saved" money for me so I had about $500. This was supposed to be my first year's tuition like he had back in 1956! The problem was I needed $5,000 for the first year back then. How times have changed even more, given how much even that has gone up! Anyway, I ended up assembling circuit boards with my intention of working for a year. I even had my acceptance into NECofM all set, except for my audition which I was working on. Well the company made me an offer to send me to school for electronics so I went against my passion and there I stayed. Those were the fun days, though. Everyone, no matter who you talked to in the technical world, was willing to help - to share their knowledge. Things were quite different.
So it happened... I ended up fixing the company's early computers. They were CP/M based machines with big floppy drives. I needed to repair floppy drive circuits so I learned to format drives. Testing other things required running programs, and then it all clicked together. Those were the fun days...
Would I do this again today? Probably not. It's not the same not only with the tiny technology which can't be repaired, but also because the attitude of the technologists. Today everyone is afraid of losing some big secret, and in reality not much has changed from before.
I too could really give less than a fart when it comes to smart phones. I was issued a Blackberry Curve 3 years ago by Oracle. I didn't want it and today I use it only as a phone. I can barely see the keys to type on it - they're about the size of a ladybug if we're lucky. These little beasts are too complicated for what we need. Why would anyone want to run programs on something that small? I have a 'Droid tablet I got last year. I installed Trainz Driver and Trainz for the 'Droid on it. To be honest it's the most awkward thing to try to do anything on and the performance is awful. Perhaps if I was 13, I could deal with the interface of these devices, but geeze ever feel left out of a world you've been in for nearly 35 years?
John
John, we started off the same way, interested in music and with little money for college, but then we took different paths. I graduated in 1978, and our school had a computer lab, in a spare room in the music department actually. A couple of my friends were into it, but I was "Meh" about, more interested in music and baseball. I wasn't very good at math to begin with, gravitating more towards history and literature besides music. I started playing music professionally at the age of 14 and had pretty much decided that was what I wanted to do. I bypassed college and enlisted in the Army instead and spent 6 years as an Army Bandsman.
I've continued playing professionally my entire life, sometimes as my sole income source, sometimes with "day" jobs to supplement. Thankfully I never had to involve myself in the corporate world, to me it seems like a miserable existence, hearing my wife's stories only make it seem more so. It's ironic that I'm ambivalent to technology, as I have always been a huge devotee of science fiction. I don't avoid it, but I do keep it at arm's length, only using what I need when I need it and trying to not be dependent on it, which is harder to do as the years go on. I try to use it to enhance my life, not take control of it.
I'll shut up now, I don't want to derail this thread any further.
I've continued playing professionally my entire life, sometimes as my sole income source, sometimes with "day" jobs to supplement. Thankfully I never had to involve myself in the corporate world, to me it seems like a miserable existence, hearing my wife's stories only make it seem more so. It's ironic that I'm ambivalent to technology, as I have always been a huge devotee of science fiction. I don't avoid it, but I do keep it at arm's length, only using what I need when I need it and trying to not be dependent on it, which is harder to do as the years go on. I try to use it to enhance my life, not take control of it.
I'll shut up now, I don't want to derail this thread any further.
I started with a Commodore 64 and loved it. Ditto the C-128 when it came out. Commodore basic was easy to use and the manual did a great job explaining it. It even explained machine language (assembly code) and I got quite proficient programming in that. Try finding out the assembly codes for any computer today. Not listed anywhere that I can find except perhaps in some gigantic safe guarded by MS monsters. I have 6 Commodore computers that still work (or did the last time I fired one up).
As for the proliferation of mind bending technology taking over our lives - 1 very large MCE (Mass Coronal Ejection) from the sun and its back to horse and buggy days.
Ben
As for the proliferation of mind bending technology taking over our lives - 1 very large MCE (Mass Coronal Ejection) from the sun and its back to horse and buggy days.
Ben
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