Quick location question
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Isegrinns, where did you find this photo? That might provide some clue. I spent some time on the Bridgehunter website, and found a number of bridges that look similar, but could not find this specific bridge. Bridgehunter has a forum, and you might try asking there. I take the locomotives on the bridge to be ALCO Funits based upon the visible rooftop detail. Also, the part of the train on the bridge is 4 and 1/2 hopper cars (probably loaded with coal) that I estimate to be about 40 feet each, and the locomotives would be about 50 feet, so the part of the train on the bridge is about 400 feet long. I estimate then, that the bridge is about 1000 to 1200 feet long.
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The hoppers on the foreground bridge are a helpful clue. They're full size hoppers only partially loaded over the trucks. Thus, they are loaded with some kind of ore. Based on that, I can narrow down the F7s on the foreground bridge to be Bessemer and Lake Erie units.
The train being crossed over includes an FM C-Liner as the last unit. Based on what little I can see of the paint, it looks like a New York Central engine.
That's about all I can figure out for the time being
Cheers,
Ben
The train being crossed over includes an FM C-Liner as the last unit. Based on what little I can see of the paint, it looks like a New York Central engine.
That's about all I can figure out for the time being
Cheers,
Ben
I think I found the location.
Thanks to Ben and his sleuthing which found the Bessemer and Lake Erie, I checked out their website, found they did some interchange with the NYC up in Osgood, PA. This interchange disappeared in 1988 when Conrail abandoned the line. What got me thinking about this was the NYC used to run west through PA for a bit before the coal industry dried up.
Here's a modern view of the same area.
http://binged.it/1LbWcDH
Note the abandoned ROW and a newer bridge.
John
Thanks to Ben and his sleuthing which found the Bessemer and Lake Erie, I checked out their website, found they did some interchange with the NYC up in Osgood, PA. This interchange disappeared in 1988 when Conrail abandoned the line. What got me thinking about this was the NYC used to run west through PA for a bit before the coal industry dried up.
Here's a modern view of the same area.
http://binged.it/1LbWcDH
Note the abandoned ROW and a newer bridge.
John
Thank you so much!
Thought this was the right place to ask.
I dont remember where I got it. Probably from one guy that likes the B&LE, now that I think of. At Bridgehunter, I spend a good part of a night to try to find it, but that didnt really help much.
Yeah, NYC was a likely candidate, my guess was either it was in Illinois, Indiana or Pennsylvania. So much railroading going on there!
Excellent! Based on that, I could get me some aerials and old maps. Thanks a lot!
Thought this was the right place to ask.
I dont remember where I got it. Probably from one guy that likes the B&LE, now that I think of. At Bridgehunter, I spend a good part of a night to try to find it, but that didnt really help much.
Yeah, NYC was a likely candidate, my guess was either it was in Illinois, Indiana or Pennsylvania. So much railroading going on there!
Excellent! Based on that, I could get me some aerials and old maps. Thanks a lot!
Good catch, John. With fiddling, I determined that the photo is an aerial image, perhaps made from the area of Osgood, NY, looking to the Southeast. Interestingly enough, just off the top of the image that Isegrinns provided is the Largish Werner Ladder company, bordering the B&LE tracks. Regrettably enough, the Werner ladder factory does not seem to be served by rail. For those wanting to see for themselves, the geographic co-ordinates of Osgood are (41.4441, -80.366894)
There are several series of maps of the area on the USGS map store for free download, including a series (or part of a series) that dates to about when this photo was made. An interesting tidbit, beside now abandoned NYC line, the N&W train is heading towards the same yard—Shenango yard—that that the BLE train just departed; the lines come together a short distance below and to the left of the image.
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There are several series of maps of the area on the USGS map store for free download, including a series (or part of a series) that dates to about when this photo was made. An interesting tidbit, beside now abandoned NYC line, the N&W train is heading towards the same yard—Shenango yard—that that the BLE train just departed; the lines come together a short distance below and to the left of the image.
ns
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I took a look at the ladder company.
It looks as though they once had rail service.
http://binged.it/1Rv76tJ
It looks as though they once had rail service.
http://binged.it/1Rv76tJ
For maps and aerials, I recommend:
http://ngmdb.usgs.gov/maps/TopoView/viewer/#4/40.00/-107.51
and
http://www.pennpilot.psu.edu/ (or for other states: http://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/ )
http://ngmdb.usgs.gov/maps/TopoView/viewer/#4/40.00/-107.51
and
http://www.pennpilot.psu.edu/ (or for other states: http://earthexplorer.usgs.gov/ )
Those links are great! I have an account with earth explorer and of course I download maps all the time from the main NSGS website.
You might like this one too.
http://historicaerials.com/
There are some historical Topos and some earlier photos from about 1993. Some places have more photos...
Here's another one too that's helpful..
https://www.topoquest.com/
You might like this one too.
http://historicaerials.com/
There are some historical Topos and some earlier photos from about 1993. Some places have more photos...
Here's another one too that's helpful..
https://www.topoquest.com/