Patch or not to patch?

[mcguirel]

Agreed. I actually like fixing content, but there comes a point when you spend more time fixing stuff than enjoying the game. I have other reasons for why I won't patch, but that's a factor as well.

Per above statement, if you wanna go for it but be prepared for utter frustration above and beyond your imagination and relinquish any time to enjoy the game.

 

[RRSignal]

Ahh, somehow I missed that one, could have been worse I suppose if they had opted for Steam only distribution.

Actually, N3V/Auran's new DRM is a bit worse in a lot of ways. Steam, at least as I understand it, only requires a one-time activation. Of course, you're still completely-outta-luck if they decide for whatever reason they don't want to accept activations, if they ban you, if they go out of business, etc. but you can run the game offline once it's been activated. I seem to recall some saying you can even "de-Steam" Trainz once it's installed and activated. But with Trainz' new DRM, you require periodic reauthorization, so if your internet connection goes out for long enough, if you have Trainz on a non-internet machine, if it's on a laptop and you can't find an internet connection every now and then, you basically can't use your DLC.

Plus, N3V/Auran has nearly gone out of business at least once that we know of. Steam is in pretty good financial shape. Although that by no means is a guarantee that's they'll allow product activations in the future - bigger, healthier companies have disabled software and content activation/authorization for far less or no reason at all - at least Steam probably isn't going to disappear tomorrow.

 

[boc61]

I think maybe there should be one mega "To patch or not to patch" thread as it's is getting a bit redundant. Someone asks the question and we all trot out our same responses, and in some cases, agendas.

 

[RRSignal]

Maybe you should request a sticky, then.

 

[normhart]

I think maybe there should be one mega "To patch or not to patch" thread as it's is getting a bit redundant. Someone asks the question and we all trot out our same responses, and in some cases, agendas.

I don't know that that is true. It certainly isn't in my response since I just completed my testing this morning.

Edit; I see they are doing something weird with the forums again, now my spell checker doesn't work here. Grrrr.

 

[stouthm]

Wow, thanks for all the great responses. I think I'll leave the game as it is. I'm fixing routes (adding stuff) and running those same routes without any major problems. I'm 68 and don't need to be wasting time fixing things. I want to play. Thanks again.

 

[Robert2d6]

If you are happy with what you have don't fix it.

I've spent hundreds of hours since SP1 came out installing, reinstalling, testing, fixing, and generally struggling with TS12 on two systems (one a brand new "gaming" computer). I just finished patching up to 58414 on two installations on the new system (about 48 hours) and did some comparisions. On all installations of TS12SP1 58414 on both systems I found problems with missing/invisible railcars that worked fine in 49922, missing trees that worked fine in 49922, increased stuttering not to mention all the older content that was marked as faulty. (I tested by looking at the TS12 built in routes.)

Bottom line IMO; If you have a kick butt top end computer upgrade by all means, assuming you have the time and bandwidth to work through all the rebuilding and fixing. If you have an average PC that is performing well with 49922 why bother? I have not seen any compelling reason to update other than the merge fix. This Service Pack did not fix much and did introduce several new problems. It is much more of a marketing patch rather than a performance/repair patch IMO.

As my Daddy used to say, "If it ain't broke don't fix it."

Edit: HF3 did improve things substantially but did not bring performance of SP1 up to the level of 49922 on my systems.

I'm starting to wonder if the people that claim that TS 12 post patch runs like a dream, aren't just running a one loco 3 car consist around a 1 mile circular track in DCC mode, and that is why they don't have any problems.

 

[mckinnell]

This puts me off some what..........

Hi ALL,

Chatting to the crowd in the Trainz Carriage and Wagon group site, some suggested i went over to TS2012, but, after reading the above thread, i realy DO feel rather reluctant, and, somewhat, thick i should hold off till the next incarnation of the Trainz sarga comes to be, say 2014 or latter????, the above read be many like me will be finding this very very daunting indeed, hell, i have only just got 2010 and content creating sorted, and being an old`un as mentioned a bit back, do`nt want to keep fixing opposed to creating and running said trainz, hope you understand my worried possition on going up to 2012 with or without and SP`s.............thanks people, nice thread all the same and very instructice in deed 100/100.....................................


Regards to all...................Tom:wave:

 

[nicky9499]

Hi Tom,

I made the jump from TS10 to TS12 over a year ago and it went smoothly as far as I can recall. Update TS12 after installing before moving your old content over. The 3 patches are 46957 to 47059, 47059 to 47294 and 48249 to 49922. That is as far as you should go (for casual user) until SP1 strings are tied up either with HF4 or hopefully SP2.

Cheerio,
Nicholas

 

[mckinnell]

Nicky,

Thanks mate, might give it ago some time, but just looking over the responses here, things never never seem to be any differant, seem jam tomorrow but not today with regards to what needs fixing then, what errors extra ontop of need fixing their after; money as with the vast majority is tight, so, i`ll keep an eye open on forth coming events regarding 2012, but as i say, many thanks for your thoughts mate.


Regards, Tom......:wave: