Open petition to Auran for a better service PLEASE SIGN

Status
Not open for further replies.
chuffchuff ,

Your idea might have some merit , but what if ;

Auran decides there is no way they can find the monies to accomplish the services you have asked for , and simply shut down the Forum , DLS , and close the doors !
Progress is slow , things are not perfect in Auranville , but it is better than some alternatives ?

My thoughts --- ,DLR

Good post there Dave, I think it points out some good points sorely missing from the first.
Asking for so much...as I have learned...is only fixed by one thing money, euros...yen?
Point made, Auran requires money...or yen...to fix the or your problems.

Oh and Dave,
Auranville?
More like Worldville.:hehe:


Cheers,
Woody:wave:
 
I repeat that is FRAUD OR THEFT

Fraud and theft requires 'intent' and I doubt very seriously that anyone at Auran has purposely taken your money and not supplied a product. I once had someone that had a personal beef with me accuse me of fraud, but after I called their hand on it and threatened legal action, the back-peddling soon started.

Some subscribe to the adage that 'The squeeky wheel gets the grease' while others subscribe to catching 'more flies with honey than vinegar'. I believe that you have shown us which of these two you are. I could be wrong though, you may have found a vinegar that the flies like.
Mike
 
Fraud and theft requires 'intent' and I doubt very seriously that anyone at Auran has purposely taken your money and not supplied a product. I once had someone that had a personal beef with me accuse me of fraud, but after I called their hand on it and threatened legal action, the back-peddling soon started.

Some subscribe to the adage that 'The squeeky wheel gets the grease' while others subscribe to catching 'more flies with honey than vinegar'. I believe that you have shown us which of these two you are. I could be wrong though, you may have found a vinegar that the flies like.
Mike

Apple cider vinegar is an excellent way to attract fruit flies...
 
Well for me it's been a question to do so.

Actually I'm one of the "Old Timers" who has been a purchaser of said product (Namely the "Trainz" line) for the past 10 years.. and since my last purchase I could get my hands on (Namely Railwayz which consisted of Trainz Railroad Simulator 2006 and Trainz Classics), I've like the system..

But recently with Auran falling onto hard times and with all the rhetoric dealing with how "Poor" the product has become, and the fact that some people are now starting to say that Auran is failing to deliver a "Viable" product, has made me question whether I should stay with the railroad simulator I come to like, or rather if I should go with some other system (and Considering that Microsoft Train Simulator 2 was permanently "Shelved" the only rail simulator left to use is really Railworks (Which is an offshoot of Rail Simulator, which I purchased to try out, but found out that the system is cumbersome at best).

Frankly when it all boils down to is whether or not I should drop approximately 45 US dollars into a product that worked initially but is now having it's issues or whether I should drop 64 US Dollars into a product that is viable, but cumbersome for the "Novice" user to use. (After all Railworks does provide better support than Auran does, but its tools are more cumbersome to use to make layouts and routes than does the easier Auran system).

So in the end I will NOT sign the petition nor will I buy an Auran (or a Railworks) product for that matter, until I can be assured that such a product is available to the US Constituants in some sort of Boxed form, and that will be available through easy to purchase means (other than digital download)

After all money talks, and if neither company wants me to spend my money on their systems then by all means I won't spend a dime on any railroad simulator that is either cumbersome to use or that has such poor support.

Nuff said.

Tucsoncoyote
 
Expecting someone to explain their opinion is smug.

Dave......
Not really. If someone says 'Trainz is rubbish', but gives no reason, I am no better informed.

If someone says 'Trainz is rubbish because it has no cab sway, then I have (assuming that it is a correct fact) gained some knowledge on the capability of Trainz.
 
paying for a product or service and not receiving it is not stating an opinion. IT IS STATING A FACT AND A FACT THAT MUST BE DIRECTLY CHALLENGED WITH THE PERSON OR COMPANY THAT HAS ILLEGALLY TAKEN YOUR MONEY.

To allow the above to go unchallenged only encourages others to act illegally. Therefore those who do directly challenge others who do not provide goods or services that have been paid for benefits everyone everywhere.

Bill
I agree, but as my post was talking about opinions and didn't relate to non-provision of services, I don't see why it was quoted in your post.
 
First off the OP does have a right to complain about Auran, they have taken far to long to resolve the issue that more than one member seems to be having.

What I am posting about is people complaining about Auran not letting people air their grievances, think about this for a minute, this is a forum owned and run by Auran and yet this thread (along with a lot of others) has not been deleted, not even a warning by a mod, this means that Auran are letting members complain, whether they are taking any notice or not is another matter :wave:

Can we have a little less 'for' and 'against' Auran and a little more intelligence please

Cheers David
 
I am WITH this because of 4 reasons;

1) Auran refused to send me a new trainz 2006 serial so i can download from the download station

2) refused to send me a new game

3) have crappy service

4) NO HOTLINE FOR TECHNICAL SUPPORT !
 
I have to agree with Pommie here. This thread is getting a bit circular.

Cheers

AJ

Before this thread get's closed (and it will) a few things..

->TR2010 refuses to download/search for dependencies.

->TRS2009 "Server Full" message.

->No service pack support for Steam bought TR2009.

BTW, I'm not for or against Auran I just find the whole thing sad! Maybe they should sell the rights to a game developer that can support the customers after the sales because it's obvious this team Cannot.

Lorin:n:
 
I think both sides of the argument should be heard. If people want to sign then let them sign, if not let them express their opinion. As to your post of which I have selected a line. You have no right to tell people what to do in this thread. You are not the thread starter neither are you a moderator. I will NOT sign. I have had no reason to complain as yet, when that time comes I will do so in a civilized manner.

You don't need to sign the petition, neither do I.

I don't think you have understood why I posted what I posted, and I shall try to spell it out.

If a company have a "constant customer service" where they adjust according to demand, then all customers view are valid and carry the same weight.

When a company change their service standard, or don't follow up when "tickets" increase, THEN not all customers view carry the same WEIGHT!

The way I see this, then only customers who have had a reason to contact customer service from in 2010, carry a weight in this discussion....the rest has no way to know what they are talking about, "they live on times when everything was better", and instead of discussing out from fact, they discuss out from personal opinions, which not always carry the truth as it is.

Someone thought I had a Grudge toward Auran, I have not, but I am flabbergasted that a company chose to have such a lousy level on customer service (not a complain toward Zec because he do what he can)
What bother me more is the unison cry from the regulars here in the forum, who call for patient, who deliver one excuse after another in order for OTHER THEN THEMSELVES to understand they must give Auran time.

At the same time they have seen a major increase in Tickets, they have seen and read that tickets after heavy work, have come down to 5 days, but only because those tickets which carry some work is put aside!!!!!
How on earth can you say this is what YOU shall live with?
Why on earth is this something Zec shall put up and live with?
How long can a company live with putting away the tricky request in order to cope with the easy ones?

It is only for you all to read the post around to understand that the service has decreased, that something is wrong, there must be a REASON for the increase in tickets, and this is what it all is about!!! Not that YOU own every single copy of TRAINZ...NOT that you have never had ANY problem with AURAN, NOT that Trainz is better then Railworks and so on....ONLY PRESENT SERVICE LEVEL, and in order for you to have a counted opinion, you must only look at present time!

A short history:
Bought Trainz2010 as DL 2 January 2010
Did not receive any confirmation mail on how to proceed.
Was put into Auran Planet, but since I did not know what to do logged out.
Hoped for a mail,got none, next day I tried to enter my planet account, but had no password.
Tried to use "lost PW", got confirmation that such thing was sent, but at the same time the page stated that there was an error in line 711 that prevented the program to talk to the email program.
I tried to make a new Planet account with another name, and another email account, I was stopped because of the confirmation mail never was sent because of the 711 error.
I tried to go to helpdesk, but you are only allowed to post inside this when you are able to log in.
I tried every email address that was listed, but got the response that they was no longer monitored..use helpdesk, I even tried Whois on the net.
Then 6 of January I tried the forum and used "Lost password" there. This was a lucky move, since I got a response. With this pw I was able to log into helpdesk, but not to Planet.
A ticket was posted 6 of January, with Urgent, because I believed I had such importent information for Auran regarding the email error. At the same time I cancelled the order due to fail of delivery, and the amount was drawn on my VISA account.
A following up post was posted 7 of January with picture of the error.
Waiting, waiting, waiting...started to post in the forum.
Since the Simulator was a gift to my 12 years old Grandson, who haven't a clue about how thing works (like.......) I took the liberty to buy the same game from Just Train 7 of January as DL and 150 minutes later it was on my PC.
My first response from Zec was 22 January, where is was offered DL help, even if I had stated that the game already was bought elsewhere and was on my PC. (again no complain toward Zec, he offer all the help he has to his disposal)
Same day I confirmed that the only option is to refund my money, since they could not deliver.

To make it short...today we write 16 feb...still no refund....still is the case open....so I assume I am in the pile that is difficult to handle.
Of course I will not go bankrupt from AUD 49,95, and in fact even if I loose them, Auran will loose so much more, and that only because of lousy handy-work!

Now...My question is.....Is this good Customer service?
Is this the way they get returning customers?

And my last question is then...do people who don't know about the service level, in 2010, have any real impact in this discussion?
 
Well you know what they say. Say something once why say it again?

This thread has run it's useful course.

Cheers

AJ
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top