While working on my dairy farm some grass like objects were added. I have tried deleting splines and objects, but nothing seems to have any effect on these things. I can't 'get object' to find out what it is either. Any suggestions on removing them, other than deleting the session completely?
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mezzoprezzo
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It is possible that they are textures.
There are a few built in textures which have billboard tufts in addition to the normal painted textured surface.
Two types which I have found are shrub grnd kuid: -3:100310 (shown left) and grass grn grnd kuid: -3:6090
If what you have look anything like these, your problem item could well be a texture. Try going into the Paint flyout (F2) and see if you can pick up the item using the get texture button.
I avoid these now because, as far as I am aware, you can’t delete a texture after a save. If I lay one by accident I quickly use the undo button before saving.
I did read somewhere that several over-paints of texture (was it 8?) will delete the first layer. Others have said that you can delete textures in the config.txt file of the Surveyor Route map.
There are a few built in textures which have billboard tufts in addition to the normal painted textured surface.
Two types which I have found are shrub grnd kuid: -3:100310 (shown left) and grass grn grnd kuid: -3:6090
If what you have look anything like these, your problem item could well be a texture. Try going into the Paint flyout (F2) and see if you can pick up the item using the get texture button.
I avoid these now because, as far as I am aware, you can’t delete a texture after a save. If I lay one by accident I quickly use the undo button before saving.
I did read somewhere that several over-paints of texture (was it 8?) will delete the first layer. Others have said that you can delete textures in the config.txt file of the Surveyor Route map.
...and they would be mistaken.
If it's not a texture, have you tried locating the items in wire frame mode?
They look like the lighter colored ones. I've tried painting over them with a texture, but they still popped up as soon as you got close.
I'm going to have to look at the paint tab again, don't remember seeing a get texture button.
Thanks for you help, looks like it's time to start over again, I wasn't that far along that it will be a disaster and I've learned something.
I'm going to have to look at the paint tab again, don't remember seeing a get texture button.
Thanks for you help, looks like it's time to start over again, I wasn't that far along that it will be a disaster and I've learned something.
mezzoprezzo
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Thanks knitnweed. It's always nice to have some feedback when something gets sorted out.
Thanks also to Euphod. I'd heard of "chunky mesh" but never realised what it was until now.
There's always something to learn!
Thanks knitnweed. It's always nice to have some feedback when something gets sorted out.
Thanks also to Euphod. I'd heard of "chunky mesh" but never realised what it was until now.
There's always something to learn!
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cascaderailroad
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There was an asset (I think it was a texture) that laid down clumps of brush that was undo-able, and the clumps remained un-deletable.
As to textures if you place down 10 textures, on top of one another ... how many textures still remain, hidden under the top texture ?
As to textures if you place down 10 textures, on top of one another ... how many textures still remain, hidden under the top texture ?
mezzoprezzo
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Clutter mesh
Thanks cascade and Malc for clarifying and providing more information about this unusual form of texture.
With regard to the "over-painting" of textures to clear an unwanted one, is there a definitive answer as to how many have to be put down before the first is obliterated? To me it seems impossible to know for sure because it cannot be seen.
Furthermore, it's not inconceivable that the radius might have an effect, as could the position of the cursor when the spray of texture is applied. The latter can be very variable in spray pattern depending on the point within each grid at which the paint is positioned, so some of the edges where textures blend could well get missed.
There is clearly more than just cans of worms buried in some of our baseboards!
Thanks cascade and Malc for clarifying and providing more information about this unusual form of texture.
With regard to the "over-painting" of textures to clear an unwanted one, is there a definitive answer as to how many have to be put down before the first is obliterated? To me it seems impossible to know for sure because it cannot be seen.
Furthermore, it's not inconceivable that the radius might have an effect, as could the position of the cursor when the spray of texture is applied. The latter can be very variable in spray pattern depending on the point within each grid at which the paint is positioned, so some of the edges where textures blend could well get missed.
There is clearly more than just cans of worms buried in some of our baseboards!
The conventional wisdom used to be that ground textures remained a drain on resources up to 3 deep. I am pretty sure on that, but a niggle at the back of my mind says 4 deep. Either way, you have to be careful retexturing. Getting it wrong and 're-doing' it imposes an additional load.
All of my routes are created in HOG. After ground texturing is completed I delete the HOG textures from the route. Despite the fact that no HOG textures are visible at that stage there is ALWAYS a substantial improvement in performance after deleting the 'invisible' textures.
On the clutter mesh thing, after texturing over them the 'clutter' will often remain. Saving and re-loading the route though will kill the clutter...
Andy
All of my routes are created in HOG. After ground texturing is completed I delete the HOG textures from the route. Despite the fact that no HOG textures are visible at that stage there is ALWAYS a substantial improvement in performance after deleting the 'invisible' textures.
On the clutter mesh thing, after texturing over them the 'clutter' will often remain. Saving and re-loading the route though will kill the clutter...
Andy
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mezzoprezzo
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Thanks Andy.
Very helpful as always.
Cheers
Casper
Very helpful as always.
Cheers
Casper
If you have an object or spline, probably texture also, that cannot be removed by normal means in Surveyor, there is a "walkaround" that I had to use:
1. Find the name of the offending object - or kuid number
2. Close Surveyor and open Content Manager - find the object in your route and delete it or disable. (You can always dowload again from DLS)
3. Open your route again in surveyor. The offending object will not be there.
4. Delete missing assets. Save the route again.
Whalla - gone. Rather labourious, but still.
pdw
1. Find the name of the offending object - or kuid number
2. Close Surveyor and open Content Manager - find the object in your route and delete it or disable. (You can always dowload again from DLS)
3. Open your route again in surveyor. The offending object will not be there.
4. Delete missing assets. Save the route again.
Whalla - gone. Rather labourious, but still.
pdw
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