New Photography Discussion Thread

If you come to Australia, you can take photos or movies anywhere provided you don't enter areas marked "Employees Only". Obviously that includes right-of-way, yards and the like. No problems at all on platforms or leaning over fences. The public are used to rivet counters around railways, so the only people likely to object would be someone's mum with someone else's dad!

When Southern Cross Station in Melbourne was being rebuilt a couple of years back, they even had the old and revamped track plans under glass, on a fence of all places, for all to see. I have a copy of those plans if anyone is interested.
 
StorkNest said:
Can't find the old one.
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I did get the URL, but it seems we don't have permission - the admins/mods must have either deleted it or have it hidden.

And admins/mods, if it is still available, I think it should be put back.
 
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Hi,

The UK policy is a) confused and b) obscure.

The Counter-terrorism legislation allows for an area to be designated for enhanced security. This allows Police, PCSO, Railway Police to stop and question anyone behaving suspiciously. This has been interpreted to include taking photographs of (among others:- St Paul's Catherdral, Christmas lights, Fish & chip shop - see BBC news Website).

The designated areas are not public information - this apparently is a security risk itself, but "every station" is reported to be a designated area.

The magazine "Amateut Photographer" is running a campaign on this - and it appears that some policy shift is underway.

Just be careful everyone!

Colin
 
At administrators and/or moderators

At administrators and/or moderators

Is their any reason why the original thread isn't available? All it showed was some enthusiasts & other people taking photographs of trains and related item and some who wrongly claimed it was illegal to take photographs of said infrastructure.
 
I believe that forcing people away from railway stations, because they want to take a couple of pictures, could cause more harm than good...

In the past I was forced away from various railway stations in the UK, because I was standing there watching trains go by, and because I wasn't travelling anywhere...

This in the end, forced me to climb fences into goods and freight yards, and basically anywhere I could, just to get a glimpse of some trains, this then put me at more risk, as I was physically on the railway itself, and not at some safe part on a railway station...

I think Virgins policy is good, but what other train companies have got to realise, If we get forced away from safe, well lit railway stations, we will only go and find an alternative spot along the line, thus putting everyone in danger, including the passengers on the train and ourselves...

Keep train spotting on railway stations where it's safer for everyone...

Joe Airtime
 
Red_Rattler said:
I did get the URL, but it seems we don't have permission - the admins/mods must have either deleted it or have it hidden.

And admins/mods, if it is still available, I think it should be put back.
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Now I get what you mean.

I tried searching for it before starting this thread. Tried at least 4 different word combinations including threads started by me since I started that one.
Just couldn't find it.

As to policies, I'm wondering when I will have to carry a backpack with encyclopedias just to keep them straight.:(
 
I don't know why the other thread was deleted (or jailed) but maybe its because of posts like this one (sorry Joe, but you did post it) that encourages trespassing.
airtime said:
This in the end, forced me to climb fences into goods and freight yards, and basically anywhere I could, just to get a glimpse of some trains, this then put me at more risk, as I was physically on the railway itself, and not at some safe part on a railway station...

I think Virgins policy is good, but what other train companies have got to realise, If we get forced away from safe, well lit railway stations, we will only go and find an alternative spot along the line, thus putting everyone in danger, including the passengers on the train and ourselves...

Joe Airtime
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While you are able to take photo's of trains from public land, if you are trespassing, you are not only breaking the law, but you cannot take photo's legally as you are not on public land any more.
Not only that but you will giving rail photographers a bad reputation causing even more grief for those doing the right thing.

Cheers David
 
I would also not encourage what Airtime has done. The law as far as I know is if it is in a public place in the United Kingdom you can take photos.

The only problem is I think railway stations come under private property as they are owned by the train operating companies. But most TOCs are happy with enthusiasts on stations if you follow these guidelines (http://www.networkrail.co.uk/aspx/777.aspx) and try and alert staff to what you are doing. My local TOC Arriva Trains Wales even has a rail enthusiast section on their website. Then you shouldn't have problems at all. Also commercial photography is different to non commercial photography and companies want prior notice before you film and a fee.

I would not encourage trespass at all as it is against the law and is dangerous. People seem to have no problems on footpaths and railway bridges with photography so you could go to them, which is probably a better environment for photos anyway. This website is help full for lineside and station photography http://www.trainspots.co.uk/ and is written by enthusiasts.

London Underground seem alright with having tourists from all over the world taking holiday snaps, yet a couple of enthusiasts have reported problems before regarding them. According to this http://www.urban75.org/photos/photographers-rights-tube-railways.html , the law with London Underground is

10.1 Passengers can take photographs with small cameras for private purposes, provided flashlights and/or tripods are not used no obstruction or inconvenience is caused to staff and/or passengers.

Also there is a couple of points on photography in the UK on the site, in the left hand bar under Photo Rights.

Also if you were worried about being thrown off the station for not travelling, you could just by a return or single to the nearest station (though a return ticket is probably better if the station had ticket barriers), also a few stations still do platform tickets. I personally haven't had any problems though I haven't taken many photos at mainline stations recently.
 
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