More railfan persecution:
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/06/01/mta-officers-detain-man-for-taking-pictures/
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2011/06/01/mta-officers-detain-man-for-taking-pictures/
More Training? Really, you think?
- Thread starter Euphod
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wow unbelievable people getting in trouble for taking pictures on a railroad that is crazy my friend. I think railroads should let people it will boost more people wanting to come see the engines in action.
Watching videos how I found out about cass and D&RGW both amzing railroads.
Watching videos how I found out about cass and D&RGW both amzing railroads.
Ed,
We can only hope that the MTA training will be equal to that of the TSA people at airports.
Main points of training:
~~~~~pat down grandmom in her wheelchair
~~~~~pat down children under 5 years old
~~~~~training on how to say....."toss all water bottles in this trash can"
~~~~~training on how to say....."take your shoes off now"
~~~~~learning how to put on the rubber gloves properly
etc. etc.~~~~~
But most important is the safety of rail and air passengers worldwide.
Regards,
Ron
We can only hope that the MTA training will be equal to that of the TSA people at airports.
Main points of training:
~~~~~pat down grandmom in her wheelchair
~~~~~pat down children under 5 years old
~~~~~training on how to say....."toss all water bottles in this trash can"
~~~~~training on how to say....."take your shoes off now"
~~~~~learning how to put on the rubber gloves properly
etc. etc.~~~~~
But most important is the safety of rail and air passengers worldwide.
Regards,
Ron
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cascaderailroad
New member
Just shows how "Al" and "Sammy" have won, and still have us all running, scared of our own shadows, looking over our shoulders, for the "boogey man".
A man was aboard a Septa train taking videos of interlockings and power sub stations ... a woman followed him ... and she personally informed Septa police onboard, and Phila police on her cell phone, of the mans suspicious, strange terroristic actions ... She continued to follow the man at Penn Center, where she again repeatedly called police ... but to no avail ... the police instead converged on her, and confronted her, letting the man pass without interrogation ... but she was detained for questioning why she was stalking & harassing a rider, making false police reports.
She, very disillusioned and psychotically deranged, wrote and complained, whining to the newspaper ,and asked: "Why won't anyone listen to me" ? (controlling beech)
A man was aboard a Septa train taking videos of interlockings and power sub stations ... a woman followed him ... and she personally informed Septa police onboard, and Phila police on her cell phone, of the mans suspicious, strange terroristic actions ... She continued to follow the man at Penn Center, where she again repeatedly called police ... but to no avail ... the police instead converged on her, and confronted her, letting the man pass without interrogation ... but she was detained for questioning why she was stalking & harassing a rider, making false police reports.
She, very disillusioned and psychotically deranged, wrote and complained, whining to the newspaper ,and asked: "Why won't anyone listen to me" ? (controlling beech)
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http://www.examiner.com/libertarian-in-national/exchange-between-citizen-and-authorities-video
Video of the encounter. I like how the citizen stands up for himself.
Video of the encounter. I like how the citizen stands up for himself.
I remember a random internet quote from an Engineer/Conductor on a class 1 railroad
"If you see a guy standing there, holding a radio scanner with a camera and a tripod, don't bother me, chances are, I know him. If you see a guy hiding behind a bush, and constantly looking over his shoulder, taking picture's, go talk to him."
Railfan's are not terrorists. People take pictures of cars and trucks because that's what they like. We are NO different!
"If you see a guy standing there, holding a radio scanner with a camera and a tripod, don't bother me, chances are, I know him. If you see a guy hiding behind a bush, and constantly looking over his shoulder, taking picture's, go talk to him."
Railfan's are not terrorists. People take pictures of cars and trucks because that's what they like. We are NO different!
Amen! I of know a guy who got yelled at because he was trackside waiting for UP 844 to come by. I don't know if this was in my hometown (Kansas City) or some other city, but someone called the cops on him and he got chewed out. This was in the city by the way, she was pulling in for a water stop.
It short, it doesn't make sense why we get singled out. Maybe it's just mass paranoia.
It short, it doesn't make sense why we get singled out. Maybe it's just mass paranoia.
I agree there I would be very upset if I went to see a steamer and the guards said sorry you can't take picures or videos. I would be like really why not you never know how long they will live to see the next day.
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Don't put it past them....
I got yelled at by an RTD guard at Denver Union Station for taking pictures of 844 because "Tomorrow was the day to visit the engine"
Thing was, I was working the next day, and only had one day to see the engine. I was not alone though, there were about 50 other people with the same idea as me.
I ended up walking over to Coors Field parking lot and taking pictures from there....with about 20 other people who had the same idea.
TSA agents (or whatever they are called) will try whatever they think they can get away with all in the name of security (a word that has become the catchall for justifying almost anything). The TSA was a good idea at first but like everything associated with government rapidly became a bloated and inept bureaucracy.
Ben
Ben
I'm sorry guys but I just can't get over this level of intrusive paranoia! I was through an airport (yes, yes, it's not trains but the railway runs past the end of the runway just to keep it all train relevant ) twice last weekend and it was just a case of showing my passport, boarding pass and putting my belt and other metal/liquid things through the x ray and myself through the metal detector.
Roberts yer mother's brother. I can see this TSA lot being a great boost to tourism...
) twice last weekend and it was just a case of showing my passport, boarding pass and putting my belt and other metal/liquid things through the x ray and myself through the metal detector.Roberts yer mother's brother. I can see this TSA lot being a great boost to tourism...
Gandalf0444
FVRR member
Some people make it out to be worse then it is, or some people cause the problems to come upon themselves. I do not see the full body scanners in use and some of the major airports as an issue. You simply stand where they have the marks on the floor, raise your hands, wait for 5 seconds then move out the another where you stand for another second, then you move on.I'm sorry guys but I just can't get over this level of intrusive paranoia! I was through an airport (yes, yes, it's not trains but the railway runs past the end of the runway just to keep it all train relevant
Roberts yer mother's brother. I can see this TSA lot being a great boost to tourism...
You take off your shoes, and empty your pockets as well as take off your belt if you have one, and send them through the Xray machine. Not very intrusive for me. But if you seem to have an over abundance of something you will be checked more thoroughly.
Coming back into the U.S. is where the hard part is as far as annoyance and inconvenience but still not a nightmare. Each inbound flight must fill out a form about where you went, how long you stayed and declare the value of any items you purchased (gift or otherwise) or if your not a citizen state your purpose for visiting the US. After your flight has landed you get off and stand in lines for immigration, thankfully they are smart enough to put US Citizen lines only, as others take longer(pretty shocking that they actually even thought of that) Then you walk though more hallways till you reach customs after getting to baggage claim. This is where you hand them the form that you filled out on the plane, no questions asked at that point, however you are subject to random searches of all your luggage. Still not very intrusive if you know how to pack and what not to bring home with you.
I best not come to the states then. I'm far too cantankerous to put up with all that. I was bad enough when I went to New Zealand in the midst of the UK foot and mouth crisis and I might as well have been a leper as far as border control were concerned.
That said, their economy is agriculture based so they had every right. Hehe.
Seriously though, I'm going to make the States one of these days.
That said, their economy is agriculture based so they had every right. Hehe.
Seriously though, I'm going to make the States one of these days.