Manningham Subdivision

You bash the UP because you're not thinking like a business... You're thinking like a gunzel

Jamie

Yes. But there's also a way of going about your business. It's kinda like the saying "it's not what you say, but how you say it." And besides, didn't the UP just get sued because they tried to force a train carrying over 28 cars of coal over a bridge, knowing it can't handle that and then used the heat as an excuse and then tried to remove the debris, damaging the evidence? And the worst part of it is, there were two elderly couple crushed under the rubble and they tried to do their own investigation. And the lawyer said, "how can we trust the UP with an investigation, when we can't even trust them operating a train over a bridge. They knew that it couldn't hold up to the task, yet ignored it. Plus trains aren't supposed to fly off tracks and crush innocent people." That says a lot about your company. That's even worse than the San Bernardino accident of 1989. And that was awful due to the explosions that followed. I understand why SP went under, but when employees of a company say negative things about the work environment(the UP in this case), that's usually not good.


Now I come off as a gunzel because I feel like something's missing. Two bankruptcies in 20 years seems to me the gov't helped. Although Harriman was able to do some cleaning up house though. And the SP-UP 1901-1913 legal battle was more about the UP wanting to get Central Pacific in order to compete with SP for traffic in California. So that's selfishness right there and the gov't new it because they didn't complain when SP and UP couldn't be together, but when the court ruled in favor of SP on Central Pacific, they threw a hissy fit. Besides CP was much smaller than UP and only operated on a single mainline from Sacramento to Promontory Point, Utah, and was a subsidiary at the time if I recall correctly. And they were under complete control of SP, and not separate like SP-DRGW. Plus Harriman bought out SP and decided to keep both railroads under his name and since he owned both, decided to make them partners. I think that's where the issue was with the gov't wanting to jar both of them a loose. At least that's how it looked to me. Maybe I'm the only who feels like someone cheated and things were rigged. Which is probably what everybody is tense about.

Anyways, I need not to keep having threads closed over two railroads, one that doesn't even exist anymore, and another I could care less about. Too many arguments on this forum that don't even amount to a hill of beans. Let's keep this about the Manningham Subdivision and trains in general, not who's the better railroad or who's in the right and who's in the wrong please and thank you for getting back on topic. Besides this is fictional railroading, not prototypical.
 
You cant always take your modern eyes on things in the past. You have to know what the era entails. USA governmental policies in the 19th and early 20th century was one of lassiez faire and promotion of big business. The government today is vastly different then it was back then. This is just one example.
 
Hert, what happened to the Eastland rocket? Haven't seen updates to that thread in a while. And Kris, this route is looking good.
 
You cant always take your modern eyes on things in the past. You have to know what the era entails. USA governmental policies in the 19th and early 20th century was one of lassiez faire and promotion of big business. The government today is vastly different then it was back then. This is just one example.

Yes that's unfortunately true.

Hert, what happened to the Eastland rocket? Haven't seen updates to that thread in a while. And Kris, this route is looking good.

Thanks, man.
 
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Better. Still looks like a golf course a little bit! Not bad though, its gettin better!

It will get better if he stops making endless parallel tracks. The rails are suppose to shape around the landscape, not the landscape around the rails. My suggestion Kris, is to completely do the landscape first dont lay any rails at all. Then when your done with the landscape, think how would a railroad build through here.

hert:wave:
 
It will get better if he stops making endless parallel tracks. The rails are suppose to shape around the landscape, not the landscape around the rails. My suggestion Kris, is to completely do the landscape first dont lay any rails at all. Then when your done with the landscape, think how would a railroad build through here.

hert:wave:

There is a curve. It's in the the last two screenshots on post #110. It's just hard to see.
 
I liked the textures you were using in your first post better (and also the face that you had some shrubbery and trees). You can make hills a little closer to the tracks, though. You don't really need a flat space for 20 meters on either side of the track.
 
I liked the textures you were using in your first post better (and also the face that you had some shrubbery and trees). You can make hills a little closer to the tracks, though. You don't really need a flat space for 20 meters on either side of the track.

You mean the green texture? And there's hill further from the tracks because I don't want them interfering with the railroad tracks.
 
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