Looking at this dell computer

[Beattie]

Ok so I was wondering how good do you think it will run with these specs on a dell xps 9100 tower?

• Intel® CoreTM i7 930 (2.8GHz/8MB cache)
• Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
• 8GB Dual channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz
• 1000GB SATA Hard Drive (Ram) (7200RPM)
• 1024(MB) ATI HD 5670 Radeon

 

[Euphod]

I think it would run very well.

 

[Beattie]

Ok thanks for the information thats all I needed to know before buying it

 

[RRSignal]

I'll second that. A lot of folks know I'm not very fond of OEM computers, but the specs are good and I'm sure it will last you awhile.

 

[Beattie]

Beats what I have now

 

[paulhobbs]

I bought a Dell XPS 15 laptop which has similar specs but 6Gb RAM and it runs TS2010 very well. On the SnC the frame rates are usually 50-60 everywhere.

Paul

 

[Beattie]

Glad because I didn' want to get it and get really bad frame rates the computer I have now is just now quite able to run the game the way I want it to

 

[djt]

Ok so I was wondering how good do you think it will run with these specs on a dell xps 9100 tower?

• 8GB Dual channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz

Any reason why they are putting “8 GB” of RAM in a machine that has triple channel memory support? 3x 2GB modules (6GB total) is the way to go with the X58 chipset.

If you can I’d get something better than the ATI/AMD 5670 also, that’s a pretty weak card to be combined with that i7.

 

[mrscsi]

That one I guess is a step up from the Studio XPS 435 MT I bought a couple of years ago and my 435 runs 2010 just fine.

Now to qualify it ran 2010 just fine BEFORE I started upgrading the box and runs it just fine after I have made some upgrades.

I maxed out on ram (went for capacity vs speed) I just put 6x4 gig instead of spending half a years pay for 12 gig triple channel sets. The most important thing about Dell's is the power supply, the motherboards and other components will be good (x58 intel mb ATI cards etc) but the power supply will be the bare minimum they could get away with. In my case it was a 280 watt running an i7 and an ati 4850 and 1 hd...

Now I have upgraded the power supply, ram and on Friday will have a brand spanking new MSI GTX 560 ti Frozr II over clocked in my possession and I think the box will then be set for the next 2 years...

 

[djt]

The most important thing about Dell's is the power supply, the motherboards and other components will be good (x58 intel mb ATI cards etc) but the power supply will be the bare minimum they could get away with. In my case it was a 280 watt running an i7 and an ati 4850 and 1 hd...

Actually their not, for the most part the motherboards and other components (especially the power supplies which you’ve mentioned) are nothing but proprietary junk.

That’s why it’s highly recommended that if you’re going for a desktop that you build a custom machine otherwise you pretty much have nothing more than a short lived disposable PC.

 

[johnwhelan]

IMHO the machine should be fine and you should see reasonable performance for a reasonable price.

It's always possible to spend more on a computer but the improvement in performance doesn't necessarily correspond to the amount spent.

Dell did have some reliability issues a while ago which hopefully have been resolved now. Might be worth checking newegg.com and look for machines with lots of reviews and high ratings.

If I'm cynical any of the quad processors either AMD or Intel should have enough computing power to run TS2010.

Have a read through a couple of Tomshardware articles. I don't recommend overclocking but it reasonable background stuff.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-overclocking-processor-recommendation,2866.html

Some people are trying to be green plus the cost of electricity is going up so have a read. For a X86 server running 24/7 the cost of the electricity is already greater than the initial cost of the server.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-consumption-graphics-cards,2849.html

Video cards - page seven compares different video cards.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...rce-gtx-560-ti-gaming-graphics-card,2857.html

Watch the size of your monitor the number of pixels 1920 x 1200 multiply it out needs a lot more processing power than 1440 x 900.

www.ncixus.com will let you pick out components then build to order for $50. I was lazy and had them do one for me. One cable worked lose on one hard drive but it has the advantage that you can specify the components. So I might use a Raptor hard drive with it's 5 year warranty, its fast, an Antec Sonata case with power supply because its nice and quiet etc.

Don't skimp on the UPS, APC works well.

Cheerio John

 

[djt]

IMHO the machine should be fine and you should see reasonable performance for a reasonable price.

It's always possible to spend more on a computer but the improvement in performance doesn't necessarily correspond to the amount spent.

Dell did have some reliability issues a while ago which hopefully have been resolved now. Might be worth checking newegg.com and look for machines with lots of reviews and high ratings.

Cheerio John

John could you share with us your experience with upgrading Dell’s?

Do you have any experience upgrading Dell’s?

Some people are trying to be green plus the cost of electricity is going up so have a read. For a X86 server running 24/7 the cost of the electricity is already greater than the initial cost of the server.

What would gaming on a PC have to do with being Green or saving electricity?

[FONT=&quot]Have a read through a couple of Tomshardware articles.[/FONT]

I would suggest you provide information from some place more reputable then Tom’s B.S. hardware site.

 

[mrscsi]

Actually their not, for the most part the motherboards and other components (especially the power supplies which you’ve mentioned) are nothing but proprietary junk.

That’s why it’s highly recommended that if you’re going for a desktop that you build a custom machine otherwise you pretty much have nothing more than a short lived disposable PC.

Well I built pc's for 23 years and walked the cutting edge and got the scars on my feet to prove it...:hehe:

I am Dell certified and have been for 10 years or so, HP and IBM certified as well...

Now if you want the latest greatest high end futuremark killer you are gonna spend alot more than a grand and you will do it every 6 months or you will find your rig obsolete...

Now with that being said I spent 999 for this 435 mt 2 years ago, 75 for a power supply 200 on ram and 250 for the video card coming in Friday and 1525 would have been spent real easy 2 years ago building a scratch box that would be just as obsolete today as some of the parts on that "short lived disposable PC" as you put it.

You say Dell's are "proprietary junk" ok that's your opinion I guess but my 999 Dell had an INTEL x58, ATI (not sapphire or xtx) 4850 a western digital hd and crucial ram. Now you might consider that "proprietary junk" but if it is your Rampage is closer to being proprietary junk since it isn't really Intel now is it?...

 

[RRSignal]

What would gaming on a PC have to do with being Green or saving electricity?

Green's a big fad everywhere in business; it is to modern business what dotcom was to the late 90s and companies are milking the cr-p out of it. You could call it annoying and hollow and largely superficial, but it's also a trendy selling point and it isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[mrscsi]

John could you share with us your experience with upgrading Dell’s?

Do you have any experience upgrading Dell’s?




What would gaming on a PC have to do with being Green or saving electricity?




I would suggest you provide information from some place more reputable then Tom’s B.S. hardware site.

What you wanna know about upgrading Dell's?

I have done it all, I have switched out built on intel chipsets for ati and nvidia's cards, keyboards cases and lcd's in laptops, and put EVERY part in desktops and servers...

Years ago Dell, ibm, Hp, compaq and gateway were ALL proprietary at one time or another. Dell for the most part uses off the shelf components for just about all of their builds and have for 6 or 7 years now...

 

[johnwhelan]

John could you share with us your experience with upgrading Dell’s?

Do you have any experience upgrading Dell’s?




What would gaming on a PC have to do with being Green or saving electricity?




I would suggest you provide information from some place more reputable then Tom’s B.S. hardware site.

We used to run a couple of thousand of them but I don't recall ever upgrading them, we tended to spec them correctly in the first place and were very sensitive to the costs of touching them. Mind you had some fun over some IBM upgrades once. At the time they used conventional memory and gold plated memory and of course the IBM dealer supplied and installed the wrong type on a dozen or so machines so three months later corrosion had set in and I got dragged in to sort it out.

Saving electricity is just one cost to consider these days for those of us who don't have unlimited budgets and I gave the reference as research reading material. Reading around before purchasing can help some people.

Cheerio John

 

[mrscsi]

But I really do understand the Dell "haters" bashing Dell makes them feel better about dropping $350 on an Asus motherboard based on the x58 chipset instead of spending a grand on a whole box (OS and all) that has a REAL INTEL BOARD and they have to justify to themselves why they laid out 1500-2000 on a box full of 3rd party mfrs proprietary junk...

I came to the realization about 5 years ago (while working on a Dell) that I couldn't build from scratch what the Dell had in it for the price they paid...

Why? Because I don't buy 20,000 motherboards from intel or 100,000 ram kits from crucial or 50,000 4850's from ATI...

If I did I could build scratch built pc's just as good just as cheap...:hehe:

 

[djt]

We used to run a couple of thousand of them but I don't recall ever upgrading them, we tended to spec them correctly in the first place and were very sensitive to the costs of touching them. Mind you had some fun over some IBM upgrades once. At the time they used conventional memory and gold plated memory and of course the IBM dealer supplied and installed the wrong type on a dozen or so machines so three months later corrosion had set in and I got dragged in to sort it out.

Saving electricity is just one cost to consider these days for those of us who don't have unlimited budgets and I gave the reference as research reading material. Reading around before purchasing can help some people.

Cheerio John

Again have you been paid to upgrade Dell’s for gaming purposes?

Saving electricity is just one cost to consider these days for those of us who don't have unlimited budgets and I gave the reference as research reading material. Reading around before purchasing can help some people.

You’re not going to find many people who are interested in performance for the purpose of gaming on the PC worried about electricity usage; otherwise they wouldn’t be interested in gaming on the PC at all.

 

[djt]

But I really do understand the Dell "haters" bashing Dell makes them feel better about dropping $350 on an Asus motherboard based on the x58 chipset instead of spending a grand on a whole box (OS and all) that has a REAL INTEL BOARD and they have to justify to themselves why they laid out 1500-2000 on a box full of 3rd party mfrs proprietary junk...

Dell haters or just those of us who actual have experience with them?

Which Dell PC that you’ve owned has had a “REAL INTEL BOARD”, built by Intel, lol?

How about the Intel branded boards sold at Newegg, Tiger Direct among others, are those “Intel” motherboards built by Intel?

 

[Retro00064]

Dell haters or just those of us who actual have experience with them?

Which Dell PC that you’ve owned has had a “REAL INTEL BOARD”, built by Intel, lol?

How about the Intel branded boards sold at Newegg, Tiger Direct among others, are those “Intel” motherboards built by Intel?

If any company was selling "Intel"-brand computer parts that were not even actually made by Intel, or made under a license from Intel, then they would be commiting trademark infringment, and would be wide out in the open for a huge law-suit.

Regards.