Yep, I'd say it would be a "scrap" belonging more to the "Ugly Trains" thread...
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Locomotives that were not saved from the scrapper's jaws
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Sorry this was a misinterpretation on my part on something I read in a book I have on the New Haven. The New Haven too had EP-4s also made by GE. They were built around the same time, but inherited some of the features that were used on the similar model known as Little Joes by the MILW, and were improved upon them in the later EP-5s.
The New Haven units were also dual mode models with pants on top and third-rail pick-up shoes for use on the commuter routes going into Grand Central.
All and all it's sad that these were scrapped and there are none, as far as I know, around that are preserved, which is the point of this thread.
Steamdemon
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That's your opinion, but it's not part of what the topic is all about. There's only one SR Q1 that's been preserved. The status of the Crusader Pacifics is unknown. And that's all I'm going to say on this matter.
nathanmallard
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Unknown? I thought they were all scrapped, there's not some sort of conspiracy around that is they?
amrail2000
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The little Joes gone? I don't think so. They are still in mainline service today.
nathanmallard
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You'll find that they last operated in Brazil in the 1990s. The Little Joes are long out of service.
amrail2000
GONE AND FORGOTTEN
you keep believing that mate
Let me edit my own reply.
It turns out that I was on the receiving end of a joke. The locomotive that brought X92 into Sao Pablo was not a little joe as I was told yesterday, but a trio of BN GE U BOATS. And there so many of those floating around.
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nathanmallard
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Wait, now I'm even more confused! I assume you mean Sao Paulo in Brazil? I didn't think they were that many U Boats still kicking about either, I would suggest that the friend giving you this information is having a laugh.
amrail2000
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Returning to the OP, it's incredible the number of loco of all traction types that haven't been preserved both in the UK and Ireland. I work at a preserved line and while we have as much as we can either stored or restored, three of the major limitations are money, space and volunteers. We're constantly criticised on some enthusiast forums for letting such and such a loco rust away. I think many of these armchair enthusiasts just don't realise the size of a loco (storage space is at an absolute premium on our site), the costs involved in transporting and restoring them, or having enough volunteers available to undertake such work. Right now, we have a dozen projects we could undertake but are run off our feet trying to keep the operational locos and carriages in traffic.
The UK is fortunate in having large numbers of people willing to volunteer at many of the major preserved lines and we look at some of the lines with great envy. In Ireland, north and south, there is a huge shortage which may in part be due to population centres given the island is far more sparsely populated than the UK. We can barely operate the railway on public running days yet when we advertise for people to either help us with restoration, or to work at the stations, the response is usually nothing. You would think we could get someone who wanted to learn to be a driver but even that seems to have no appeal.
On a lighter note, the image below shows a loco I've almost single handedly sanded down, refurbished the leaking windscreens, and repainted. I've been working on it since last summer and only now is it near completion. When I made the pictures public, the first feedback I got was to tell me how the lower band was the wrong colour, the number font was too thick and that it wasn't as per the original. It's at times like that when I feel the effort is just not worth the grief.
For those who are interested in such things, this is a former CIE 001 A class loco. Assembled by Metropolitan Vickers in Birmingham using parts supplied by Metro Cammell (body), English Steel Corporation (bogies), and Crossley Brothers (engines). This particular loco entered service in 1956 and was re-engined in 1969, the original Crossley HSTV8 proving hugely unreliable. The replacement was a GM 12-645E engine. The loco was withdrawn from regular service in 1995 after 40 years and will celebrate its 60th 'birthday' this May.
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Steamdemon
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Don't worry, there's no conspiracy. I wasn't sure of what class the locomotive was. However, I did find this: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1395384.
The locomotive's actual class is a Pacific GS1sas class.
I don't think I'm making any sense at all. Lemons.
Kind of a variation of railway equipment being scrapped, but here's a car left to rust away on an old, abandoned piece of track. You could say that having it 'naturally' rust away is a very slow way for a piece of equipment to be scrapped. Also, I've provided a link to the YouTube page this is on as it has links to other interesting videos of equipment left behind to rust away.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbX8h9X4M50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbX8h9X4M50
Steamdemon
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I've found another few locomotives that didn't make it to preservation. There's the Furness Railway K2. It's a 4-4-0 locomotive. It, like the K1 didn't survive. The same can be said for the Furness Railway Class D5, which was an 0-6-0 locomotive.
susmaster7879
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That 1890s British 4-4-0 that got scrapped in 1967, forgot the name but it was from the Highlands
susmaster7879
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Oh yes Ben Alder
susmaster7879
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I just realized this thread is from 8 years ago, why does this keep happening to me.
I know that's happened to me before.