Locomotives that were not saved from the scrapper's jaws

[Steamdemon]

All of us at Trainz are grateful for the work of those who keep our heritage railways running, wherever they may be. But let us not forget the locomotives that weren't saved from the scrap heap. At least two locomotives that I can mention is Hudswell Clarke 325, 'Worsley' and Hudswell Clarke 327, 'Bromborough'. Bromborough worked at Lord Pit in the days of the Poynton Collieries. Both Worsley and Bromborough were built in 1889, interestingly.

Ok, the ball is now in your court, guys and girls. Reminisce away!

 

[JCitron]

We have way too many to count over here.

The Boston & Maine for instance, a local railroad to me and once considered a Class 1 railroad, dieselized early so many great steam classes were gone before many could be preserved.

Here's one of their big Berkshires 2-8-4s with the classic Elesco Feedwater Heater on the front. These were their T1A/B class locomotives.

http://www.llarson.com/steam/schenzinger/images/NA33.jpg

Many of these were sold off as surplus to the Santa Fe and Southern Pacific and were scrapped. There are none preserved as far as I can find.

John

 

[pdkoester]

This was not too long ago, sorry to see that it had to end up this way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Pacific_4450

 

[cascaderailroad]

Sadly, some of the fantastic experimental PRR steam locos were cut up by acetylene torches and were scrapped within a couple hundred miles under their belt, as they kept derailing, and spreading rail gauges

 

[Steamdemon]

Another British locomotive that didn't survive was BR Class D3/12 aka the Maunsell Shunter on the DLC. Only 3 were produced, according to Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_D3/12

 

[jordon412]

For forty years, four steam engines, two diesels, and several cars languished in a scrapyard in a city known for being the last holdout of steam. If you don't already know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the Lost Engines of Roanoke, a rare example of a locomotive being sold for scrap, but never being scrapped.

http://lostengines.railfan.net/

@JCitron:
Here's a link for a section of the website above that might interest you.

http://lostengines.railfan.net/newbury.shtml

 

[JCitron]

For forty years, four steam engines, two diesels, and several cars languished in a scrapyard in a city known for being the last holdout of steam. If you don't already know what I'm talking about, I'm talking about the Lost Engines of Roanoke, a rare example of a locomotive being sold for scrap, but never being scrapped.

http://lostengines.railfan.net/

@JCitron:
Here's a link for a section of the website above that might interest you.

http://lostengines.railfan.net/newbury.shtml

Thanks for the link. This is awesome!

I wish the B&M Berkshires and Pacifics were saved though. They were long gone, mostly, by the early 1950s.

 

[TheWaluigiKing]

Down here we of course have the famous Victorian railways S class, the NSWGR C34 and D58s.
Quite a shame the S class didn't survive.

 

[nathanmallard]

Here in the UK, they are obviously many classes of steam (and diesel!) locomotives where not one example has survived in to preservation. Examples include the LNER Peppercorn A1 Pacifics, the LMS "Patriot" 4-6-0s, the BR "Clan" 4-6-2s, and several GWR classes such as the "Counties" and "Granges". Many classes of tank engines are lost to time also, including the BR Standard 3MTs and the LNER G5 0-4-4s.

However, there is hope, as anyone too young to see these locomotives in action when they were in service (me included) will shortly get that chance again. For every single locomotive I have listed above is currently being recreated somewhere in the country. Of course the A1 is already completed, No.60163 'Tornado', and the Patriot and the G5 should be finished in the next few years. The list above isn't even complete, I forgot to list the LNER P2 Mikado, of which, bizarrely two are currently under construction.

 

[watemple]

NEW YORK CENTRAL HUDSONS.

275 of them were built, and the CEO of the NYC spared none. :'(

The closest we can get to them now is live steam.

 

[nathanmallard]

Isn't there a project to build a new one? I am aware of two new build projects in the US, one to build a PRR T1 and another to build a Hudson. Both are extremely ambitious, and a new T1 seems somewhat unlikely but they said the same about Tornado!

 

[Steamdemon]

Another american locomotive that was amazing was the Reading Crusader Pacific. It's only known to me via Trainz and various black and white pictures.

Really wish I knew more about it...

 

[nathanmallard]

Unfortunately, from what I've read, railroad bosses in the US didn't have the same respect for heritage that the UK and most European companies did. It should be noted that the same chairman who ordered every Hudson scrapped was also the NYC's last chairman, I wonder what his predecessors thought to him scrapping all of their locomotives and then basically selling out the company to the PRR...

Back on topic, to further my original posts here are some photos of locomotives lost to the scrapper's torch:

The LMS 'Patriot' Class 4-6-0...

...and the new build.

LNER Gresley P2 "Cock' O the North" in it's original form.

GWR Hawksworth "County" Class 4-6-0.

LNER Gresley B17 Class 4-6-0

LNER Raven Class A2 Pacific

BR Standard Class 3MT 2-6-2T

Finally, the GWR Churchward "Saint" Class 4-6-0...

...and the new one!

 

[EverTrainz]

True, there might be too many gone to count in American railways, but there are too many to even think about, still running :hehe: .

Britain has always had a reserved set of locomotives after dieselization, many didn't make it.

• BR Class 16
• BR Class 22
• BR Class 23 (Currently trying to retool/shrink a Class 37, not too steady on how it might turn out)
• BR Class 41

Now for some trials:

• HS4000 Kestrel (Or possibly taken hostage by Russians, debatable)
• D0260 Lion
• D0280 Falcon :'(

 

[lego207]

Sadly, the Milwaukee Road's EP3 Quill Drive locomotives did not survive...

Neither did the ES-1 / ES-2 electric switcher locomotives...

Fantastic electrics that have been completely destroyed. Very sad...

Cheers,
SM

 

[JCitron]

Sadly, the Milwaukee Road's EP3 Quill Drive locomotives did not survive...


Neither did the ES-1 / ES-2 electric switcher locomotives...



Fantastic electrics that have been completely destroyed. Very sad...

Cheers,
SM

Neither did the New Haven's counterparts or the B&M tunnel motors used on the Hoosac Tunnel - 1911 to 1946.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mTk1Y6Hf79M/T1iQ9lmW94I/AAAAAAAAKp8/1H104JqRVfM/s1600/NH+352.jpg

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8064/8180945363_fdef4f32cf_z.jpg - EP2

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/12/60/f9/1260f9fc54c968a7354f3ba5220900f0.jpg

and many more including Little Joes they inherited from the Milwaukee Road.

http://www.tomswift.info/homepage/eltrain3.jpg - Their EP-5

 

[lego207]

and many more including Little Joes they inherited from the Milwaukee Road.

Not sure what you mean by 'inherited', as all the Joes, save E70, were scrapped almost immediately after de-electrification of the line... Plus, MILW was DC, NH was AC. Wouldn't work out at all...
Few pics of them in a line of items to be scrapped I found.

Cheers,
SM

 

[BLACKWATCH]

Another american locomotive that was amazing was the Reading Crusader Pacific. It's only known to me via Trainz and various black and white pictures.

Really wish I knew more about it...

Oh please ............. what redeeming feature does that have????
It looks like a cybermans helmet with a light on.
It has less character than a Bullied Q1.

 

[MeowRailroad]

Oh please ........... was a redeeming feature required to post it here?

 

[nathanmallard]

I can see no reason for that post, other than the desire to start an argument. In any case, I rather like the Reading Crusader locomotives, the silver and blue suits the shape. Shame none survive- they are similar locomotives preserved though, like the C&O "Yellowbellies", although I can no longer look at a head-on shot of one of those without thinking of the Minions.