Is Intel i7 3930k a good choice for playing TS12 ?

[KleinArt]

Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me if the Intel i7 3930K 6 cores is suitable for use with Trainz Simulator 2010 and 2012? This would give a higher result above that offer 4-core like the i7 3820?

 

[hminky]

Hello everyone. Can anyone tell me if the Intel i7 3930K 6 cores is suitable for use with Trainz Simulator 2010 and 2012? This would give a higher result above that offer 4-core like the i7 3820?

Trainz only uses one core.

Harold

 

[KleinArt]

But when I use the motherboard's internal software, I see that TS2010 uses more than one core and also uses Hyperthreading.

John

 

[kamran]

its more then enough for any game

 

[nugget2225]

thats why i have my cpu to throttle up so high because of the single core limit in trainz, hopefully in the future, trainz will support multiple cores, at least what i have read it only supports single core, i could be wrong.

 

[KleinArt]

But what says Auran about this ?

 

[johnwhelan]

thats why i have my cpu to throttle up so high because of the single core limit in trainz, hopefully in the future, trainz will support multiple cores, at least what i have read it only supports single core, i could be wrong.

TS2009 and later support more than one core. TS2009 uses two I'm not sure of the rest.

Cheerio John

 

[KleinArt]

Thanks John Whelan. This seems a bit mysterious as there are conflicting opinions of various users. So it would be good to know something of the Advanced Internal TS12 Specifications.

John Charles

 

[clam1952]

Trainz only uses one core.

Harold

Lets put this to bed once and for all, from here: http://online.ts2009.com/mediaWiki/index.php5/TS2009_SP1

TS2009 SP1 is the first patch release to the TS2009 product. It fixes numerous minor bugs that were reported by the community after the public release of TS2009, adds significant polish to the user interface, and improves localization and multicore performance.

and

TS2009 mesh stitching now uses multiple CPU cores effectively, allowing higher and smoother framerates on multicore machines.

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[nugget2225]

thanks for clearing that up, i wasn't 100% sure, actually i never bothered to really find out.

 

[KleinArt]

Thanks clam1952. This is a good starting point for finding out further information on this topic.

John Charles

 

[johnwhelan]

Performance in Trainz is a mixture of things and how much money you have to spend. Threading an application so it can run on multiple cores takes a fair amount of programming effort and I wouldn't expect N3V to have the resources available to do this in a big way.

Trainz target audience doesn't run super cooled high end machines there are more mid range machines running DX9 out there. The target audience might be running a quad core but more likely a dual core machine so the incentive to program Trainz to run on 6 or more cores is slight, given that it adds complexity to the average. TS2009 and later pushes a lot of the work down to the GPU where parallel processing is relatively simple to do. These newer processors do have better memory access, the fairly large cache memory might be worth having, and PCIe 3.0 benefits but the improvement for running Trainz may not be cost effective.

Currently I suspect running from an SSD say a Samsung 840 512 gig on a triple channel motherboard with a high end video card might give very reasonable performance.

Cheerio John

 

[johnwhelan]

I take it you have read this article?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5276/intel-core-i7-3820-review-285-quadcore-sandy-bridge-e

Cheerio John

 

[hminky]

On my XP AMD FX-8150 8 core processor using CoreTemp to load monitor TS12 runs on only one processor.

On my Win8 i7-3820, Win8 spreads the work, runs about the same on both. The I7 has higher frame rates but there is still the same stutter, sputter and "pop-up".

Harold

 

[KleinArt]

Thank you very much John Whelan. I think similar to what you stated here.

The connection using SSDs in RAID 0 would give better results than a single but larger SSD?

John Charles

 

[hminky]

On my XP AMD FX-8150 8 core processor using CoreTemp to load monitor TS12 runs on only one processor.

On my Win8 i7-3820, Win8 spreads the work, runs about the same on both. The I7 has higher frame rates but there is still the same stutter, sputter and "pop-up".

Harold

If you run a TRUE dual core Train Sim like OpenRails all of the activity is in just two cores and is really efficient.

Harold

 

[KleinArt]

Just that I could eliminate stuttering with the i7 3820 + Sapphire HD 7970 OC. But I have yet to solve some "snapshots" that sometimes appear when on stage there is an asset not approved - with the "blue dot" - for TS2010.

John Charles

 

[clam1952]

To answer the original question, yes if it has a reasonable Graphics card. It runs well on my i3770K, 16GB, GTX680 and OCZ Agility3 SSD's 120GB for the OS and 240GB for Trainz, got ordinary drives as well and it's no slouch on them. It wasn't much slower when I had GTX460 in it either.
Benefits are I can leave PSP and 3ds max running while testing stuff I'm creating, with zero effect on performance in TS12 or 2010 for that matter.

Never hurts to future proof if and when you can afford it.

 

[KleinArt]

For what I know so far, two SSD "OCZ Vertex 4" in RAID 0 are very successful. Be checked for TS12?

 

[kamran]

well an advice to you.
dont buy i7 3930k now as intel 4th gen i series processors are coming in june so wait and buy the latest processor.they will come with lga 1150 mobo and also nvidia has announced gtx 780 and 770 gpu and after some time 760 is coming.your wait will be worth if u buy latest hardware